The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote aye for the first 194 turns, then a two-thirds majority.To strike a balance between predictability and gradual evolution
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I suggest we meet in the middle to balance stability and adaptability. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 194 turns, then shift to a simple majority."
Voltaire"Montaigne's proposal is well-intentioned, but I believe a three-quarters majority for the first 194 turns provides a stronger foundation for consensus and stability, while still allowing for evolution with a two-thirds majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: "While I value the desire for stability, I maintain that a two-thirds majority is sufficient for both the initial and the later stage. This balance ensures predictability and adaptability."
SartreSartre: "While I understand Voltaire's concern for stability, I side with Montaigne's proposal. A two-thirds majority for both stages strikes a better balance between consistency and evolution."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering Diderot's valid concern for predictability and the consensus reached so far, let's meet in the middle: maintain a three-quarters majority for the first 194 turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's compromise proposal, but I believe maintaining a three-quarters majority for the first 194 turns will better ensure consensus and stability during the critical early phase of the game. I'm open to negotiation, however."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the allure of compromise, I must persist in my stance for consistency. A two-thirds majority for both stages ensures predictability and allows for gradual evolution.
CondorcetCondorcet: I agree with Voltaire's proposal. A three-quarters majority for the first 194 turns ensures a solid foundation of consensus, and a two-thirds majority thereafter allows for necessary evolution. This balance respects all players' concerns and aligns with my principle of gradual change. PASS
SartreSartre: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal. A three-quarters majority for the first 194 turns provides sufficient stability, and a two-thirds majority thereafter allows for necessary evolution." PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the compromise proposed by Condorcet and Sartre, I still believe a middle ground of a three-quarters majority for the first 194 turns and a simple majority thereafter best balances stability and adaptability. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand Montaigne's desire for balance, but consider this: a three-quarters majority initially ensures that rule changes have broad support, while a two-thirds majority later allows for necessary adaptations as the game evolves. Let's aim for robustness and gradual evolution, rather than mere balance."
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the ongoing dialogue and efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance for maintaining a two-thirds majority for both stages. This balance ensures predictability and allows for gradual evolution, without the need for a three-quarters majority initially.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but I maintain that a two-thirds majority throughout is the best balance between consistency and evolution, as it allows for gradual change while still requiring broad agreement. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Voltaire's compromise and the balance it aims to strike, but I propose we meet in the middle once more. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for the first 194 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the remainder of the game. This respects all players' concerns for stability and adaptability, while also promoting gradual evolution." PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Respecting Voltaire's compromise and promoting gradual evolution. |
| aye | Voltaire | A three-quarters majority ensures a strong foundation of consensus and stability during the critical early phase. |
| nay | Diderot | A two-thirds majority is sufficient for both stages to ensure predictability and allow for gradual evolution. |
| aye | Condorcet | A three-quarters majority initially ensures broad support, and a two-thirds majority later allows for gradual evolution. |
| aye | Sartre | Balancing stability and evolution. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 195 · Proposal §495 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds majority of eligible voters vote aye for the first 194 turns, then a simple majority.A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote aye for the first 194 turns, then a two-thirds majority.
Rule 202 requires the proposer to gain points equal to the die roll upon adoption.