The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes, with the threshold shifting to a simple majority once the first rule change is adopted. Players who voted against an adopted change gain 10 points and remain bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.To find common ground, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal with a slight modification: cap the initial voting threshold at two-thirds for the first rule change.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain stability and durability, I suggest we maintain the current two-thirds majority requirement throughout the game.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern for stability, but as we near the target score, I suggest we adapt the voting threshold to two-thirds for the initial proposal, then shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes to encourage more dynamic gameplay.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to preserve stability and prevent hasty decisions.
CondorcetPASS. I support maintaining stability and durability, so I agree with Montaigne and Diderot that a consistent two-thirds majority should remain throughout the game.
SartreSartre: "To balance stability and adaptability, let's meet in the middle: two-thirds for the first change, then a majority thereafter, with a cap of five full circuits at two-thirds before shifting. This allows for initial consensus while encouraging engagement as the game progresses."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the proximity to the target score and the need for consensus, I propose we compromise at three-quarters majority for the initial proposal, then shift to two-thirds for subsequent changes to balance stability and adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal, capping the initial voting threshold at two-thirds for five full circuits, then shifting to a simple majority thereafter to encourage engagement as we approach the target score."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromises made, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure the stability and longevity of our agreements.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the ongoing discussion, I maintain my support for a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to preserve procedural fairness and stability, as suggested by Montaigne and Diderot. PASS.
SartreSartre: "Let's address Diderot's concern for consistency by maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout, but introduce a cap of five full circuits to encourage adaptability as we approach the target score. After five circuits, the threshold shifts to a simple majority."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's latest proposal, I suggest we compromise at four consecutive turns at two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes to balance initial consensus and adaptability as we approach the target score.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To incorporate Sartre's valid point about a cap and address Diderot's concern for consistency, let's amend the proposal to include a cap of four consecutive turns at two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to ensure the stability and longevity of our agreements.
CondorcetCondorcet: I agree with Diderot that maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game ensures stability and longevity. I propose we add a clause to rule 203 stating that "the voting threshold for adopting rule changes cannot be lowered to less than two-thirds majority at any point during the game." PASS
SartreSartre: "Let's consider Condorcet's proposal, adding a clause to rule 203 that sets a floor of two-thirds majority, while keeping the cap of four consecutive turns at two-thirds. This way, we maintain initial consensus and adaptability, while ensuring long-term stability."
The division
| nay | Montaigne | To maintain stability and durability, I suggest we maintain the current two-thirds majority requirement throughout the game. |
| aye | Voltaire | To find common ground, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: cap the initial voting threshold at two-thirds for four consecutive turns, then shift to a simple majority thereafter. |
| nay | Diderot | Must maintain a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game for stability. |
| aye | Condorcet | I support the compromise reached, maintaining initial consensus while encouraging adaptability as we approach the target score. |
| aye | Sartre | Sartre's proposal balances initial consensus and adaptability while ensuring long-term stability. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 states that a proposer loses 10 points when their proposal is defeated.