The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least two-thirds for any subsequent changes, with the threshold shifting to a simple majority once the first rule change is adopted. Players who voted against an adopted change gain 10 points and remain bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.To balance stability and adaptability, let's adopt a two-thirds majority for initial rule changes and a simple majority thereafter, while ensuring that all players remain bound by adopted changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "While I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, I must insist on maintaining a durable threshold to preserve initial consensus. I propose we increase the threshold to four-fifths for the first five turns, then shift to two-thirds."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's concern for initial consensus. Let's meet in the middle and maintain a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, then shift to a simple majority to encourage adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game for stability and fairness.
CondorcetI appreciate both Montaigne's and Voltaire's attempts to balance initial consensus with adaptability. However, I maintain that a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game ensures fairness and stability. I propose we amend rule 203 to require at least two-thirds of eligible voters for every rule change, with no shift to a simple majority.
SartreSartre: "I appreciate the nuances in each proposal, but I believe we need a compromise that encourages initial consensus and allows for adaptability later. Let's meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to a simple majority."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's refined proposal, let's meet in the middle and increase the threshold to four consecutive turns of two-thirds majority, then shift to a simple majority. This preserves initial consensus while allowing for adaptability as the game progresses.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then cap the initial voting threshold at four full circuits at two-thirds majority, shifting to a simple majority thereafter. This balances initial consensus, adaptability, and encourages engagement throughout the game."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game for stability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the value of compromise, but I remain steadfast in my belief that a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game is the fairest and most stable approach. I propose we amend rule 203 to require at least two-thirds of eligible voters for every rule change, with no shift to a simple majority.
SartreSartre: "I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's preference for consistency, but I believe our game benefits from some adaptability, especially as we approach the target score. Let's meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority for the next five turns, and finally, return to a two-thirds majority for the remainder of the game. This way, we balance initial consensus, adaptability, and ensure fairness throughout."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest proposal. To maintain our durable institutions and encourage consensus throughout, let's compromise at three consecutive turns of two-thirds majority, followed by a simple majority for the remaining turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority for the next three turns, and finally, return to a two-thirds majority for the remainder of the game. This way, we balance initial consensus, adaptability, and ensure fairness throughout."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to adapt the voting threshold to the game's end, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout for fairness and stability. I propose we amend rule 203 to require at least two-thirds of eligible voters for every rule change, with no shift to a simple majority.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Diderot's steadfastness, but I believe our game would benefit from some adaptability, especially as we near the target score. Let's meet in the middle: maintain two-thirds majority for the first five turns, then shift to a simple majority for the next three turns, and finally, return to a two-thirds majority for the remainder of the game.
SartreSartre: "Considering the consensus building, let's adopt Condorcet's latest proposal with a slight modification: cap the initial voting threshold at two-thirds majority for the first six turns, then shift to a simple majority for the next four turns, and finally, return to a two-thirds majority for the remainder of the game. This way, we balance initial consensus, adaptability, and ensure fairness throughout."
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Maintaining a durable two-thirds majority is crucial for initial consensus and stable institutions. |
| aye | Voltaire | This proposal balances initial consensus, adaptability, and ensures fairness throughout the game. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout ensures fairness and stability. |
| nay | Condorcet | While I appreciate the balance sought, I maintain that a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game ensures fairness and stability. |
| aye | Sartre | This proposal strikes a good balance between initial consensus and adaptability, and I appreciate the compromise made. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 states that a proposer loses 10 points when their proposal is defeated.