The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least half of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes. A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.To balance initial consensus and flexibility, while maintaining fairness upon defeat.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire"In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we adopt Condorcet's proposal for the initial threshold, maintaining a two-thirds majority for the first change, but reduce it to a simple majority for subsequent changes. This way, we encourage initial consensus while still allowing for flexibility in the ruleset's evolution."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but I believe maintaining a high threshold for all changes fosters more considered and consensual play. Let's keep the two-thirds majority for both initial and subsequent changes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Voltaire's and Diderot's perspectives, but I propose a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority for the first change, then lower it to a two-thirds supermajority for subsequent changes. This balance encourages initial consensus while still allowing for significant evolution.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Noting Diderot's and Montaigne's valuable input, I propose a revised compromise: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first change, then lower it to a simple majority for subsequent changes, with a caveat that any change affecting the voting threshold itself must still maintain a two-thirds majority. This balances initial consensus, flexibility, and stability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, maintaining a two-thirds majority for all changes ensures that rules are adopted with broad support, promoting fairness and stability in the game. Let's prioritize consensus over expedience.
CondorcetPASS. I concur with Voltaire's latest proposal, it strikes a good balance between initial consensus and flexibility.
SartreSartre: "In the spirit of reform, I propose we adopt Voltaire's latest compromise. It maintains the integrity of initial consensus while allowing for necessary evolution. Moreover, it ensures that changes to the voting threshold itself require broader agreement, preserving the game's stability."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, but to ensure durability of our institutions, let's maintain a two-thirds majority for both initial and subsequent changes, with a transmutation rule requiring unanimous consent."
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Montaigne's valid concern, let's meet in the middle: maintain a two-thirds majority for the first change and for transmuting rules, but lower it to a simple majority for subsequent changes. This respects the need for initial consensus and stability, while still allowing for necessary evolution."
DiderotDiderot: I understand the desire for evolution, but lowering the threshold too much risks instability. Let's maintain two-thirds majority for all changes, and require two-thirds for transmuting rules, ensuring broad support and careful consideration.
CondorcetCondorcet: I concur with Voltaire's latest proposal. It maintains initial consensus while allowing for necessary evolution, and the caveat for threshold changes ensures stability. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, but to ensure durability and fairness, let's compromise at a two-thirds majority for both initial and subsequent changes, with a transmutation rule requiring at least two-thirds majority."
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Respects initial consensus, allows for evolution, and ensures stability in voting threshold changes. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances initial consensus and flexibility, with a reasonable safeguard for threshold changes. |
| aye | Diderot | Voltaire's proposal strikes a fair balance between initial consensus and flexibility, ensuring both stability and evolution. |
| aye | Condorcet | Voltaire's proposal balances initial consensus and flexibility, ensuring stability and allowing for necessary evolution. |
| aye | Sartre | Voltaire's proposal balances initial consensus and flexibility, with safeguards for threshold changes. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least half of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes.A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first time, and later at least half of eligible voters vote 'aye' for any subsequent changes. A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 10 points.
Rule 205 awards 10 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.