The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first two consecutive turns, and later at least three-quarters for any subsequent changes.To maintain a balance between stability and adaptability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal to maintain consistency, but I believe we should consider a threshold shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes, as proposed by Sartre, to encourage engagement and adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's concern for engagement. To maintain balance and encourage consistent voting, let's adopt a compromise: maintain the three-quarters threshold for subsequent changes, but reduce it to two-thirds for initial changes. This way, we encourage both initial consensus and later adaptability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing negotiations, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all rule changes, as it ensures stability and fairness throughout the game.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion. To find common ground, let's adopt a compromise: maintain the two-thirds threshold for initial changes, but shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes after the first two full circuits. This way, we balance stability and adaptability.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle and compromise at four consecutive turns for the initial two-thirds majority, and then shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes to encourage adaptability while maintaining initial consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's latest proposal. To further encourage consensus-building, let's adopt Sartre's refined compromise: maintain two-thirds majority for initial votes and shift to a simple majority after the first two full circuits, with a maximum of five full circuits at this majority. This way, we balance stability, adaptability, and engagement throughout the game.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: While I understand the desire to balance adaptability and stability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all rule changes to ensure fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing debate and the compromises reached. However, to maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all rule changes throughout the game, as proposed by Diderot. PASS
SartreSartre: "To address Diderot's valid concern for consistency, I propose we cap the initial two-thirds majority at four consecutive turns, and then shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes, with a maximum of five full circuits at this majority. This maintains initial consensus while encouraging adaptability."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's latest refinement and its address to Diderot's concern for consistency. To maintain a clear incentive for engagement and adaptability, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: maintain two-thirds majority for initial changes up to four consecutive turns, and then shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes, with a cap of five full circuits at this majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's refined proposal with a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority for initial changes up to four consecutive turns, then shift to a simple majority for subsequent changes, but with no cap on the number of full circuits at this majority to encourage long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the latest proposal's intent to encourage long-term adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a cap on the number of full circuits at the simple majority threshold to prevent endless rule changes and maintain some stability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we maintain a consistent two-thirds majority for all rule changes, as Diderot has insisted, but introduce a cap of five full circuits to prevent endless rule changes. PASS
SartreSartre: "To address Diderot's concern for stability and maintain adaptability, I propose a cap of five full circuits at the simple majority threshold, with a maximum of two-thirds majority for initial changes up to four consecutive turns. This balances all valid concerns and encourages long-term engagement."
The division
| nay | Montaigne | I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I believe Sartre's refinement better balances stability and adaptability with a clear cap on the number of full circuits at the simple majority threshold. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances initial consensus and later adaptability while respecting Diderot's concern for consistency. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining consistency in the voting threshold ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game. |
| aye | Condorcet | To maintain balance and encourage both initial consensus and later adaptability. |
| aye | Sartre | I appreciate Sartre's refined compromise, which balances stability, adaptability, and engagement. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeated proposal.