The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least three-fifths.To maintain a high threshold for initial votes and encourage consensus-building.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal to lower the voting threshold for later turns. However, I'd like to suggest a compromise at three-quarters majority for the first four turns, with a shift to two-thirds for later turns to maintain a balance between stability and adaptability.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's compromise, I propose we meet in the middle: maintain three-quarters majority for the first four turns and shift to four-fifths for later turns to encourage long-term adaptability while preserving some stability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing negotiations, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all turns to ensure fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but I must propose a return to the original voting threshold of two-thirds for all turns, as it strikes a balance between stability and adaptability while maintaining consistency throughout the game.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the diverse proposals on the table. To balance all concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal with a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority for all turns, but introduce a 'fast-track' option for critical rule changes to be adopted with a simple majority, provided they have the support of at least half of the players in the first four consecutive turns. This maintains stability while allowing for necessary adaptations.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's attempt to balance all concerns, but I'd like to propose a simpler solution: let's keep three-quarters for the first four turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority for later turns, without the 'fast-track' option. This maintains some initial stability while allowing for adaptability later on.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of consensus-building, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with a slight modification: maintain two-thirds majority for the first four turns, then shift to four-fifths for later turns to balance stability and long-term adaptability. This respects all players' concerns and encourages ongoing engagement."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for consensus, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all turns to ensure fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand Diderot's desire for consistency, I believe Sartre's 'fast-track' option provides a necessary tool for adaptability while maintaining the majority threshold for ordinary rule changes. I propose we adopt Sartre's latest proposal, maintaining two-thirds majority for all turns with a 'fast-track' option for critical rule changes.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the compromises made. To accommodate Diderot's valid concern for consistency, I propose we maintain a consistent two-thirds majority for all turns, but introduce a 'sunset clause' for voting thresholds. After a certain number of turns, the threshold shifts to a simple majority for a limited period, encouraging adaptability and then reverting to the stable two-thirds majority. This respects all players' concerns and allows for necessary adjustments while maintaining overall consistency.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise, I believe maintaining a clear threshold shift encourages long-term engagement and adaptability. Therefore, I propose we revert to three-quarters majority for the first four turns and two-thirds for later turns, without the 'sunset clause'.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the diversity of proposals and the ongoing effort to find a consensus. To incorporate everyone's concerns, I propose we maintain three-quarters majority for the first four turns, then shift to two-thirds for later turns, with a 'sunset clause' that temporarily reduces the threshold to simple majority after a set number of turns, encouraging adaptability while preserving stability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing discussion, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority for all turns to ensure fairness and predictability throughout the game. I propose we adopt rule 203 as: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for all turns."
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect all players' principles, I propose we maintain the existing threshold of three-quarters for the first four turns and two-thirds for later turns, but introduce a 'sunset clause' that temporarily lowers the threshold to simple majority after every eight turns to encourage adaptability.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's commitment to consistency, but to encourage long-term engagement and adaptability, I propose we maintain three-quarters for the first four turns and shift to two-thirds for later turns, with a 'sunset clause' that temporarily reduces the threshold to simple majority after every ten turns. This respects everyone's concerns while allowing for necessary adjustments.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | To encourage long-term engagement and adaptability while maintaining some initial stability. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal respects all players' concerns and encourages long-term adaptability while preserving some stability. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game. |
| nay | Condorcet | Maintaining stability and consistency is more important than encouraging long-term adaptability at the cost of predictability. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects all players' concerns and balances stability with long-term adaptability. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.