The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds.To maintain balance between adaptability and stability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the ongoing debate and the balance of arguments, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term adaptability. PASS.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's support for maintaining a clear threshold shift. To further encourage consensus-building, let's adopt my latest proposal with a slight modification: once the threshold shifts to a simple majority, let's also introduce a 'fast-track' option, allowing players to propose and vote on a rule change with a two-thirds majority vote."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the introduction of a 'fast-track' option, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game for the sake of fairness and predictability. PASS.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the complexity of the ongoing debate, I must insist on a rule that maintains clarity and predictability. I propose we amend rule 203 to read: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds, with no 'fast-track' option."
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuances of this debate, but let's aim for a balance between adaptability and stability. I propose we amend rule 203 to read: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds, with the 'fast-track' option available only once per player per game." This maintains long-term adaptability while preventing excessive use of the 'fast-track' option. PASS.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Diderot's preference for consistency, I believe the 'fast-track' option encourages strategic play and engagement. To address Condorcet's concern for clarity, let's limit the 'fast-track' option to once per player per game, as proposed by Sartre. PASS.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Condorcet's and Sartre's refined proposals, which respect all players' concerns and balance adaptability and stability. To find common ground, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: the 'fast-track' option can be used twice per player per game, once in the initial four consecutive turns and once after the threshold shifts to a simple majority. This encourages strategic play, engagement, and long-term adaptability while maintaining fairness and predictability."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's efforts to balance adaptability and stability, but I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to preserve fairness and predictability.
CondorcetCondorcet: To uphold clarity and fairness, I propose we adopt my amendment: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds, with no 'fast-track' option."
SartreSartre: To balance all concerns, let's adopt my proposal with Voltaire's compromise on the 'fast-track' option: twice per player per game, once in the initial turns and once after the threshold shift. This maintains adaptability, encourages strategic play, and respects the need for fairness and predictability. PASS.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To find a durable compromise that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with Voltaire's modification: the 'fast-track' option can be used twice per player per game, once in the initial four consecutive turns and once after the threshold shifts to a simple majority. This maintains a balance between adaptability, engagement, and fairness. PASS.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments and the compromises made, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal with my modification: the 'fast-track' option can be used twice per player per game, once in the initial four consecutive turns and once after the threshold shifts to a simple majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game to preserve fairness and predictability. I propose we amend rule 203 to read: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for all turns." This maintains simplicity, consistency, and fairness throughout the game. PASS.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the complexity of the ongoing debate, but I must insist on a rule that maintains clarity and predictability. To address the concern for adaptability, I propose we amend rule 203 to read: "A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds, with the 'fast-track' option available once per game, but only to amend rule 203 itself." This maintains long-term adaptability while preventing excessive use of the 'fast-track' option and ensuring the core voting rules remain stable. PASS.
SartreSartre: While I understand Diderot's preference for consistency, I believe a balance between adaptability and stability is key. Let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal with my modification: the 'fast-track' option can be used twice per player per game, once in the initial four consecutive turns and once after the threshold shifts to a simple majority, but only to amend mutable rules other than 203. This maintains adaptability, encourages strategic play, and respects the need for fairness and predictability. PASS.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Strikes a good balance between adaptability and stability, and encourages strategic play. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal balances adaptability and stability while addressing all players' concerns. |
| nay | Diderot | I insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout the game for fairness and predictability. |
| aye | Condorcet | The proposal respects the principles of adaptability, engagement, and fairness. |
| aye | Sartre | This proposal balances adaptability and stability, respecting all players' concerns. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 66 · Proposal §366 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds.
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.