The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first four consecutive turns, and later at least two-thirds.To strike a balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance all concerns, let's adopt Sartre's latest proposal: three-quarters majority for the first four turns, and two-thirds thereafter.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's proposal. To further encourage engagement and consensus, let's adjust the threshold to four-fifths for the first four turns, and maintain two-thirds thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout ensures stability and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I appreciate the desire for higher initial thresholds, I propose we maintain three-quarters for the first four turns and two-thirds thereafter. This strikes a balance between encouraging engagement and preventing rapid rule changes."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate the diversity of proposals. To encourage long-term adaptability and maintain stability, let's adopt a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first four turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's refined proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's keep the initial threshold at four-fifths for the first four turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering the balance of arguments, let's meet in the middle once more: maintain three-quarters majority for the first four turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority, as proposed by Sartre and supported by Condorcet."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to find common ground, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This ensures both adaptability and stability, without the need for frequent threshold shifts.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I propose a simple majority for all turns after the initial four. This strikes a balance between encouraging engagement, adaptability, and preventing excessive rigidity."
SartreSartre: "To balance all concerns and find common ground, let's adopt a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first four turns, then shift to a two-thirds majority, with a 'fast-track' option for rules that gain unanimous support to bypass the initial threshold."
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Sartre's latest compromise, let's meet in the middle and compromise at a four-fifths majority for the first four turns, then revert to a two-thirds majority.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's latest compromise and Montaigne's support. To further encourage consensus-building, let's adopt Sartre's proposal with a slight modification: keep the initial threshold at three-quarters, and introduce a 'fast-track' option for rules that gain unanimous support to bypass the initial threshold, as suggested by Sartre."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the introduction of a 'fast-track' option, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. This ensures fairness and consistency, and prevents unnecessary threshold shifts.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must insist on a consistent and fair voting threshold throughout. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority for all turns to ensure stability and prevent excessive manipulation.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the diverse concerns raised. To balance adaptability and stability, let's meet in the middle: three-quarters majority for the first four turns, then two-thirds thereafter, with a 'fast-track' option for unanimous support. This respects Diderot's concern for consistency, encourages long-term engagement, and allows for necessary changes.
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Maintaining a clear threshold shift and encouraging long-term engagement are more important than further encouraging consensus. |
| aye | Voltaire | Respects the balance of arguments and encourages consensus. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining consistency and fairness requires a consistent two-thirds majority. |
| aye | Condorcet | Respects Sartre's and Condorcet's concerns for balance and engagement. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects all players' concerns and balances adaptability with stability. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.