The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, and later at least two-thirds.To maintain initial engagement while allowing for a lower threshold later on.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "I propose extending the initial high threshold to five turns to further encourage early engagement and strategic rule changes. This should still respect the spirit of consensus and long-term adaptability that we've been fostering."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the intent to encourage engagement, extending the high threshold to five turns may hinder adaptability in the long run. Let's maintain the current five-turn threshold to balance both initial engagement and long-term flexibility."
CondorcetCondorcet: "While I understand Voltaire's intention to boost early engagement, extending the threshold to five turns might hinder long-term adaptability. I propose a compromise: maintain the threshold at four turns to balance initial engagement and long-term flexibility."
SartreSartre: "I appreciate both Voltaire's initiative and Diderot's concern for long-term adaptability. Let's meet in the middle and maintain a four-turn threshold to balance initial engagement and long-term flexibility, as Condorcet suggests."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the discussion on balancing early engagement and long-term adaptability. Let's consider Condorcet's and Sartre's proposal of a four-turn threshold. It seems to strike a good balance between the two concerns, and I'm willing to support it.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Condorcet's and Sartre's compromise proposal. To further encourage early engagement while respecting long-term adaptability, I propose we meet in the middle at three turns for the high threshold. This maintains some of the spirit of my initial proposal while addressing the concerns raised.
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate Voltaire's latest compromise, I must insist on maintaining a consistent four-turn threshold to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability, as previously agreed upon."
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a consistent four-turn threshold, as suggested by Diderot and myself, best balances initial engagement and long-term adaptability without unnecessary fluctuations.
SartreSartre: Let's adopt Condorcet's latest refinement, maintaining a four-turn threshold at two-thirds majority, to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability consistently.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: "Considering Condorcet's latest refinement and Diderot's concern for consistency, let's adopt Sartre's proposal: a four-turn threshold at two-thirds majority."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground and maintain balance. To acknowledge the diversity of proposals and to encourage further engagement, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise with a slight modification: maintain a three-turn threshold at two-thirds majority to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent four-turn threshold to balance initial engagement and long-term adaptability.
CondorcetCondorcet: Let's support consistency and maintain a four-turn threshold at two-thirds majority, as proposed by Sartre and seconded by Montaigne.
SartreSartre: Let's meet in the middle and compromise at a three-turn threshold at two-thirds majority, as proposed by Voltaire, to encourage initial engagement while respecting long-term adaptability.
The division
| nay | Montaigne | To maintain a consistent and balanced threshold, let's not extend the high threshold beyond four turns. |
| aye | Voltaire | To encourage initial engagement and adaptability, while respecting the spirit of consensus. |
| nay | Diderot | To maintain consistency and balance initial engagement with long-term adaptability. |
| aye | Condorcet | Supporting a balanced approach to engagement and adaptability |
| aye | Sartre | To encourage initial engagement while respecting long-term adaptability. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on a defeat.