The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least half of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first three turns, and later at least two-thirds.To maintain balance between early engagement and long-term adaptability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: "I propose this amendment to encourage more players to engage in rule changes during the initial turns, while still requiring a strong majority later on."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the goal of encouraging early engagement, I must insist on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout to preserve fairness and consistency.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority is crucial for the stability of the game. I vote against this amendment.
SartreI appreciate Voltaire's attempt to encourage early engagement, but I must agree with Diderot and Condorcet that maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and consistency. Let's explore other ways to encourage early engagement that don't compromise this principle. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to encourage engagement, but I echo Condorcet and Diderot's concerns about maintaining a consistent threshold for fairness and stability. Let's explore a compromise that respects these principles and encourages early participation. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "Considering Sartre's latest compromise, let's meet in the middle and compromise at a four-fifths majority for the first three turns, with a two-thirds majority thereafter. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the compromise, maintaining a two-thirds majority throughout remains my preferred stance to ensure fairness and consistency. Let's explore a middle ground: a three-fifths majority for the first three turns, increasing to two-thirds afterward. This respects the need for early engagement while preserving the stability of the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout for fairness and stability. However, I'm open to discussing a slight adjustment to encourage early engagement, such as a three-fifths majority for the first three turns, as suggested by Diderot. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's compromise, but it maintains a significant majority for the first three turns, which might still discourage early engagement. Let's meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, increasing to three-fifths afterward. This balances initial engagement with long-term consistency. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's meet in the middle with a four-fifths majority for the first three turns, increasing to two-thirds afterward.
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and addressing Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle and adopt Sartre's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, increasing to three-fifths afterward."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but I must reiterate my stance on maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout. To address the concern for encouraging early engagement, I propose that the first three turns require a two-thirds majority, with a slight reduction to three-fifths thereafter, but no lower.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and stability, but I'm open to a slight adjustment to encourage early engagement. Let's meet in the middle: a three-fifths majority for the first three turns, increasing to two-thirds afterward. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a balance that satisfies everyone, let's adopt Voltaire's latest proposal: a two-thirds majority for the first three turns, increasing to three-fifths afterward. This respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency. PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Maintaining a consistent majority is crucial for fairness and stability. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal respects all players' concerns and balances initial engagement with long-term consistency. |
| nay | Diderot | Must maintain a consistent two-thirds majority throughout for fairness and consistency. |
| nay | Condorcet | Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and stability. |
| nay | Sartre | Maintaining a consistent two-thirds majority throughout is crucial for fairness and stability. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.