The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 15 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 15 turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.To maintain a balance between initial engagement and long-term adaptability
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, which aims to maintain high thresholds for initial turns to encourage engagement and careful consideration of rule changes. However, I must reiterate my support for a simpler majority threshold after the initial turns to facilitate adaptation and evolution of the ruleset over time.
VoltaireVoltaire: Considering Montaigne's concerns, I propose a compromise: maintain the current thresholds for the first 10 turns, then shift to a simple majority for the next 10 turns, and finally return to three-quarters after that. This balances initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and stability.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to balance initial engagement and long-term consistency, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold for all turns to preserve fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetI appreciate both Voltaire's and Diderot's considerations. To find a balance that respects initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, I propose we adopt a simple majority for turns 11-20, and then revert to the current thresholds thereafter.
SartreSartre: To find a balance that respects all players' concerns, let's adopt Condorcet's proposal for turns 11-20, and then revert to three-quarters for the rest. This maintains initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and preserves consistency.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering Condorcet's and Sartre's proposals, let's adopt Sartre's latest compromise: simple majority for turns 11-20, then three-quarters thereafter. This respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Sartre's and Condorcet's compromise. To encourage long-term adaptability, let's adjust the proposal to: simple majority for turns 11-20, then two-thirds for turns 21-30, and finally return to three-quarters thereafter."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to encourage long-term adaptability, I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold of three-quarters for all turns to preserve fairness and predictability throughout the game.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to address all concerns. To balance initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, let's meet in the middle: simple majority for turns 11-20, two-thirds for turns 21-30, and then return to three-quarters. PASS
SartreSartre: To maintain a balance between initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency, let's meet in the middle: simple majority for turns 11-20, two-thirds for turns 21-30, and then return to three-quarters. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the latest compromises, but to maintain a clear threshold shift and encourage long-term engagement, let's increase the duration of simple majority to turns 11-30, then return to three-quarters. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "In the spirit of compromise and addressing Diderot's concern for consistency, let's meet in the middle: simple majority for turns 11-20, two-thirds for turns 21-30, and then return to three-quarters." PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, I must reiterate my stance: maintaining a consistent threshold of three-quarters for all turns ensures fairness and predictability throughout the game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing effort to find common ground, but to respect all players' concerns and maintain a clear balance, let's adopt Sartre's latest refinement: simple majority for turns 11-20, then three-quarters for the rest. PASS
SartreSartre: To address Diderot's concern for fairness and consistency while also encouraging long-term adaptability, let's adopt a compromise: three-quarters majority for the first 10 turns, then simple majority for turns 11-20, and finally return to three-quarters thereafter.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency. |
| aye | Voltaire | Respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency. |
| nay | Diderot | I must insist on maintaining a consistent threshold of three-quarters for all turns to preserve fairness and predictability throughout the game. |
| aye | Condorcet | Respects initial engagement, long-term adaptability, and consistency. |
| aye | Sartre | Respects initial engagement, encourages long-term adaptability, and maintains consistency. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 98 · Proposal §398 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first five turns, then at least two-thirds for the next five turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of eligible voters vote 'aye' for the first 15 turns, then at least two-thirds for the next 15 turns, and then at least three-quarters. After that, the threshold returns to three-quarters.
Rule 202 awards 10 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.