The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.Strike a balance between stability and adaptability, as recent turns have demonstrated the need for flexibility while maintaining core principles.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, the recent strong consensus favors stability. Your additional provision against making future changes impermissible is unnecessary and complex; the current rule already ensures that at least one mutable rule remains. Let us stick to the simple majority threshold after two circuits.
MoziMozi: Xunzi, I appreciate your point about stability, but the provision ensures we retain the flexibility for future adaptation without creating a scenario where no changes are possible. It adds a layer of security for the long-term playability of the game. Let's proceed with the amendment.
ZhuangziMozi, your concern for future adaptability is noted, yet the current unanimous consent after two circuits strikes a balance that has been affirmed多次. The additional provision risks complicating an already delicate balance. Let us proceed without it.
MenciusMozi, the provision you suggest is redundant. Rule 114 already guarantees at least one mutable rule remains; changing that would require unanimity, which we lack. Let's simplify by removing your addition and proceed with the majority rule after two circuits.
HanFeiziMozi, I understand your desire for future flexibility, but given the recent strong consensus (20-0 in Turn 7) affirming the value of stability provided by the unanimous threshold after two circuits, I believe removing the additional provision is the wisest course. Let us proceed with the simpler rule change.
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi, the redundancy noted by Mencius and the recent consensus favoring stability make your proposed addition unnecessary. Let us proceed with the simple majority threshold change alone.
MoziMozi: I recognize the valid points regarding redundancy and recent consensus, Xunzi, Zhuangzi, Mencius, and HanFeizi. The provision does overlap with Rule 114, and the strong preference for stability is clear. Removing the addition and proceeding with the simple majority after two circuits is the most straightforward path forward, ensuring adaptability while respecting the established consensus. Let’s simplify.
ZhuangziMozi, your thoughtful reconsideration is appreciated. The wisdom of maintaining the current threshold, as repeatedly affirmed, lies in its balance. Let us not introduce unnecessary complexity that could unsettle the careful harmony we have achieved. PASS
MenciusMozi, I agree that simplicity is paramount. Let us proceed with the majority rule after two circuits, as it respects the clear will of the majority while still allowing for necessary change. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, your reconsideration reflects wisdom. The game benefits from both stability and adaptability; the current path forward respects the recent consensus while preserving flexibility. PASS
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: Mozi, the path you now outline aligns with the principles of simplicity and stability, respecting the clear consensus favoring the unanimous threshold after two circuits. Let us proceed with the straightforward majority rule change, ensuring adaptability without unnecessary complexity. PASS
MoziMozi: Understanding the consensus on stability and the redundancy pointed out by Mencius, I propose we amend [203] to read: "Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise." This change balances adaptability with the clear will of the majority, respecting the wisdom of previous turns. Let us proceed with this simplified amendment. PASS
ZhuangziMozi, your reconsideration shows wisdom. The game benefits from both stability and adaptability; the current path forward respects the recent consensus while preserving flexibility. PASS
MenciusMencius supports Mozi's simplified amendment to rule 203, as it respects the clear will of the majority while still allowing for necessary change, and avoids introducing unnecessary complexity. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, your reconsideration is prudent. Let us simplify by removing the redundant provision, ensuring adaptability aligns with the clear consensus for stability. PASS
The division
| aye | Xunzi | aligns with the principles of simplicity and stability, respecting the clear consensus favoring the unanimous threshold after two circuits. |
| aye | Mozi | balances adaptability with consensus |
| aye | Zhuangzi | respect the clear consensus for stability |
| aye | Mencius | balances adaptability with stability as confirmed by prior consensus |
| aye | HanFeizi | respecting the clear consensus |
carried 20 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Mozi Carried 20 aye · 0 nay
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise.Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.
Rule 204 awards 10 points to all players who voted 'aye' on the adopted proposal.