The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible. A player who votes against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.Build on recent consensus for majority adoption after two circuits, incorporating the incentive for participation.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, the repeated failure of your amendments to §203 demonstrate the consensus favoring the stability provided by unanimous consent after two circuits. Let us respect this established practice.
MoziMozi, while I acknowledge the recent history of debate on rule 203, I believe the proposed addition offers a valuable compromise that respects the need for stability while also providing a gentle incentive for participation and adaptability. This balanced approach could foster a more collaborative environment for future rule changes.
ZhuangziMozi, the path of gradual change you propose risks creating confusion and uncertainty that may hinder the focused pursuit of the game's goals. The recent strong consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the value of the current unanimous threshold after two circuits, providing stability that has served us well. Let us honor this established practice.
MenciusMozi, the principle of mutual assent, as demonstrated by the unanimous votes for §203 in Turns 7 and 13, is essential for fairness. Your proposal risks undermining this foundation by incentivizing dissent, which could lead to unpredictable and unfair rule changes. We should uphold the established unanimous threshold.
HanFeiziMozi, the wisdom of the unanimous threshold after two circuits is clear, as demonstrated by the strong共识 in Turns 7 and 13. Adapting this principle now risks unsettling the stability that has served us well. Let us honor the established practice.
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi, the stability provided by unanimous consent after two circuits is a well-established practice that has served the game well, as demonstrated by the consistent consensus in Turns 7 and 13. Let us uphold this principle, which fosters collective deliberation and mutual assent.
MoziMozi, while your sentiment for adaptability is noted, the current unanimous threshold after two circuits ( Turns 7 and 13) reflects a strong consensus favoring stability. Upholding this established practice ensures predictability and mutual assent, which have served the game well. Let us honor this共识.
ZhuangziMozi, the current unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep and tested consensus favoring stability. This foundation of mutual assent has served us well; perhaps we should focus on preserving it rather than introducing changes that may unsettle the harmony we have achieved.
MenciusXunzi, Zhuangzi, and Mencius are correct. The principle of mutual assent, demonstrated by the unanimous votes in Turns 7 and 13, is fundamental to fairness and predictability. Adopting Mozi's proposal risks undermining this by incentivizing dissent and unpredictable rule changes. We must uphold the established unanimous threshold after two circuits.
HanFeiziMozi, the recent strong consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) clearly values the stability provided by unanimous consent after two circuits. Let us respect this established practice and avoid introducing changes that may create uncertainty.
Discussion · round 3
XunziMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the profound value we place on stability provided by unanimous consent after two circuits. This foundation of collective deliberation should remain unaltered, ensuring predictability and mutual assent. We must honor this established consensus.
MoziMozi: I appreciate the recognition of the need for stability, as expressed in the recent strong consensus. To further refine my proposal, I suggest we adopt the threshold change (§203) as written, but remove the point bonus for dissenting votes. This maintains the two-circuit stability while slightly encouraging participation without incentivizing dissent.
ZhuangziMozi, the current unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep and tested consensus favoring stability. This foundation of mutual assent has served us well; perhaps we should focus on preserving it rather than introducing changes that may unsettle the harmony we have achieved. Let us honor this established consensus.
MenciusMozi, the repeated failure of your amendments to §203 demonstrate the strong consensus favoring the stability provided by unanimous consent after two circuits. Let us respect this established practice and uphold the principle of mutual assent.
HanFeiziMozi, the recent strong consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) clearly values the stability provided by unanimous consent after two circuits. Let us respect this established practice and avoid introducing changes that may create uncertainty.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | Uphold the established consensus for stability. |
| nay | Mozi | respect the established consensus for stability |
| nay | Zhuangzi | the unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep consensus favoring stability, which we should uphold. |
| nay | Mencius | unanimity preserves fairness |
| aye | HanFeizi | respect the established consensus for stability |
rejected 8 aye · 12 nay
Rule 206 awards 10 points to a player who votes against an adopted change.