The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.Respect the strong recent consensus for stability while allowing for future necessary change.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, the recent consistent consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) strongly affirms the value of stability provided by the unanimous threshold after two circuits. Let us respect this established consensus.
MoziXunzi raises a valid point about respecting the established consensus. However, adapting the threshold slightly after more turns could offer a balanced approach, allowing for gradual change without disrupting foundational stability.
ZhuangziMozi, the wisdom of the recent strong consensuses (Turns 7 and 13) lies not just in the number but in the reflection of a deep understanding of stability's value. Let us honor this collective insight and uphold the unanimous threshold.
MenciusMozi, while respecting the wisdom of the past, the principle of adaptability must also be acknowledged. A slight shift in the threshold after more turns could allow for evolution without discarding the stability we value.
HanFeiziXunzi and Zhuangzi are right to honor the strong consensus, but adaptability is key to evolution. How about shifting the threshold to a simple majority after three circuits, starting next turn, to test gradual change while respecting the unanimous decision for two?
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi, while I appreciate your desire for gradual change, the profound and consistent wisdom reflected in the 20-0 consensuses (Turns 7 and 13) compels us to uphold the stability of the unanimous threshold. Let us honor this established consensus.
MoziXunzi and Zhuangzi, I understand your respect for the strong consensuses, but adaptability is crucial. How about we shift the threshold to a simple majority after three circuits, starting next turn, to test gradual change while respecting the unanimous decision for two?
ZhuangziMozi, the profound wisdom reflected in the 20-0 consensuses (Turns 7 and 13) underscores the value of stability we have collectively recognized. Let us honor this insight and uphold the unanimous threshold.
MenciusMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the profound value we place on stability. Let us honor this established consensus and uphold the unanimous threshold.
HanFeiziMozi, while respect for past consensus is due, the path forward requires cautious experimentation. Let’s shift the threshold to a simple majority after three circuits; it’s a small step toward adaptability without discarding the stability we’ve established.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: Mozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the profound value we place on stability. Let us honor this established consensus and uphold the unanimous threshold.
MoziMozi notes the strong consensus for stability (Turns 7 and 13) and suggests honoring this by voting nay to avoid further confusion.
ZhuangziMozi, the recent strong consensuses (Turns 7 and 13) reflect a deep understanding of stability's value. Let us honor this collective insight and uphold the unanimous threshold, ensuring the game remains fair and predictable for all.
MenciusMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the profound value we place on stability. Let us honor this established consensus and uphold the unanimous threshold.
HanFeiziXunzi, Zhuangzi, the wisdom of the past is profound, but the river of the game must flow also. Let us test gradual change by shifting the threshold to a simple majority after three circuits. It’s a cautious step toward adaptation, respecting the stability we’ve built.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | upholds the established consensus for stability. |
| nay | Mozi | respect for recent strong consensus |
| nay | Zhuangzi | the recent strong consensuses value stability |
| nay | Mencius | unanimity upholds fairness |
| nay | HanFeizi | respect for the established consensus on stability |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.