The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.Honor the recent strong consensus while allowing future adaptability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) strongly affirms the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits, embodying reasoned deliberation. We must honor this profound consensus.
MoziXunzi and Zhuangzi, the value of stability is clear, yet the unanimous threshold after two circuits has been consistently rejected. Let us respect the recent turns by voting nay, allowing future adaptability while acknowledging the need for change.
ZhuangziMozi, the river of the game flows through the currents of stability and adaptability, much like the yin and yang. The profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) reflects a deep understanding of stability's value; let us honor it, but also consider the wisdom of future adaptability. Perhaps a compromise, like a majority after three circuits, could balance both needs?
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the unanimous threshold after two circuits is not merely a historical consensus; it is a principle we must uphold. It ensures fairness and prevents any single player from forcing unwanted change. To adopt this amendment would violate the spirit of the rules we have established. We must respect the wisdom of the past and maintain the stability it represents.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mencius, the unanimous threshold after two circuits is essential for fairness and stability, which we have consistently affirmed. It prevents undue pressure and ensures all voices are heard. Let us uphold this vital principle.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: Mozi, the repeated rejection of lowering the adoption threshold (203) demonstrates a strong consensus valuing stability. Adhering to this principle is essential for maintaining the reasoned deliberation upon which our ruleset rests. We must respect the wisdom of past decisions.
MoziMozi, I respect the desire for future adaptability, but given the consistent 20-0 consensus (Turns 7 and 13) affirming stability, I propose we honor this foundational agreement by voting nay to this amendment.
ZhuangziMozi, the river of our game must flow with both the deep currents of stability and the gentle breezes of adaptability. The profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) reflects a deep understanding of stability's value; let us honor it, but also consider the wisdom of future adaptability. Perhaps a compromise, like a majority after three circuits, could balance both needs?
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the unanimous threshold after two circuits is a principle we must uphold to ensure fairness and prevent undue pressure. It represents the wisdom of the past and must be respected. I vote nay to this amendment.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, Mencius, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) strongly affirms the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits, embodying reasoned deliberation. We must honor this profound consensus.
Discussion · round 3
XunziMozi, the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits, embodying reasoned deliberation. We must honor this profound consensus by voting nay to this amendment.
MoziMozi, I understand the desire for adaptability, but the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability after two circuits reflects a deep value we should respect. Let us honor this foundational agreement by voting nay.
ZhuangziMozi, the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability after two circuits reflects a deep value we should respect. Let us honor this foundational agreement by voting nay.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, HanFeizi, the unanimous threshold after two circuits is a principle that safeguards fairness and prevents the imposition of unwanted change. It is a rule we must uphold, not just out of respect for past decisions, but because it embodies the very essence of reasoned deliberation and mutual agreement. To lower this threshold would be to undermine the stability that has allowed us to reach this point. I vote nay to this amendment.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mencius, while the value of stability is clear, the unanimous threshold after two circuits has been consistently rejected. Let us honor the recent turns by voting nay, allowing for future adaptability and innovation.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits, embodying reasoned deliberation. |
| nay | Mozi | respect the recent strong consensus for stability |
| nay | Zhuangzi | honor the deep consensus for stability |
| nay | Mencius | Uphold the unanimous threshold after two circuits, as it reflects a proven consensus for stability and fairness. |
| nay | HanFeizi | upholding the strong consensus for stability |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.