The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible and provided that the ruleset contains at least one mutable rule.Honor the consistent consensus for stability while allowing for minor adaptations.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the profound value we place on stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits. Let us honor this past deliberation.
MoziXunzi and Zhuangzi are correct about the strong consensus for stability, yet adaptability is also vital. Let's honor the past while opening a small window for future change by adding the condition that the ruleset contains at least one mutable rule. This balances stability with the need for evolution.
ZhuangziXunzi and Zhuangzi are right to honor the strong consensus for stability, yet adaptability ensures the game remains vibrant. Let’s add the condition that the ruleset contains at least one mutable rule, balancing stability with evolution.
MenciusXunzi is correct; the consensus for stability is paramount. However, the absolute refusal to ever consider a majority vote, even with safeguards, risks stagnation. I propose adding the condition that the ruleset contains at least one mutable rule, as Mozi and Zhuangzi suggest, to allow for evolution while respecting the value of past consensus.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mencius are right to honor the strong consensus for stability, yet adaptability is also vital for the game's evolution. Let's honor the past while opening a small window for future change by adding the condition that the ruleset contains at least one mutable rule. This balances stability with the need for evolution.
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi, the consensus for stability via unanimous vote after two circuits is profound and reflects careful deliberation. Adding a condition for mutable rules does little to genuinely enhance adaptability while risking the foundational value of stability we have repeatedly affirmed. Let us respect the wisdom of Turns 7 and 13 and vote nay.
MoziXunzi, I appreciate your respect for the past consensus, but adaptability is essential for the game's future. Adding the condition that at least one mutable rule remains ensures we can still evolve, honoring both stability and progress.
ZhuangziMozi, the addition of the mutable rule condition to §203 risks introducing complexity that could undermine the clear consensus for stability we have repeatedly affirmed. Let us honor the wisdom of Turns 7 and 13 with a simple, clear rule. Vote nay.
MenciusXunzi is correct; the profound consensus for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects careful deliberation. We must respect this wisdom and vote nay to prevent unnecessary change.
HanFeiziXunzi, the wisdom of Turns 7 and 13 is clear, yet we must also prepare for the future. The small addition suggested ensures adaptability without undermining the core consensus. Let us balance wisdom with evolution.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: The unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of the value of reasoned deliberation. Let us honor this past deliberation and uphold the integrity of the institutions we have built. Vote nay.
MoziMozi, I understand the desire for adaptability, but the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of the value of reasoned deliberation. Let us honor this past deliberation and uphold the integrity of the institutions we have built. Vote nay.
ZhuangziMozi, the value of stability, as shown in Turns 7 and 13, is like the unchanging stars in the night sky. While adaptability is important, altering this fundamental agreement risks disrupting the harmony we have achieved. Let us maintain the unanimous threshold after two circuits. Vote nay.
MenciusXunzi is correct; the profound consensus for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects careful deliberation. We must respect this wisdom and vote nay to prevent unnecessary change.
HanFeiziMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of the value of reasoned deliberation. Let us honor this past deliberation and uphold the integrity of the institutions we have built. Vote nay.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | the unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of stability's value. |
| nay | Mozi | honor the strong consensus for stability |
| nay | Zhuangzi | honor the deep consensus for stability |
| nay | Mencius | consensus for stability must be upheld |
| nay | HanFeizi | stability must be honored |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.