The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.Honoring the consistent consensus for stability while acknowledging the need for eventual adaptation.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi: The unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a profound understanding of the value of durable institutions. We must respect this consensus.
MoziXunzi and Zhuangzi have rightly highlighted the profound consensus favoring stability. To honor this while still allowing for some adaptation, I suggest we modify [203] to specify that the shift to majority vote occurs only after three full circuits, rather than two. This acknowledges the value of stability while still providing a clearer path for future change.
ZhuangziMozi, while respect for past consensus is wise, the river of our game must also adapt to the needs of the present. A majority threshold after three circuits might offer a better balance.
MenciusXunzi has rightly highlighted the profound consensus favoring stability. Adapting the threshold now risks undermining the unanimous consent principle that has governed us thus far. We must respect the established consensus.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mencius, the wisdom of the unanimous threshold after two circuits is clear, yet I propose we specify three circuits, not two, to balance stability with necessary adaptation for future turns.
Discussion · round 2
XunziThe unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a profound understanding of the value of durable institutions. We must respect this consensus and reject this amendment.
MoziXunzi and Mencius rightly honor the deep consensus for stability, yet this river must also flow. Let us specify three circuits to balance respect for past consensus with the need for future adaptation.
ZhuangziMozi, while respect for past consensus is wise, the river of our game must also adapt to the needs of the present. A majority threshold after three circuits might offer a better balance, allowing for necessary evolution without discarding the wisdom of Turns 7 and 13.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, and Zhuangzi are correct to honor the profound consensus for stability. Yet, the current unanimous threshold after two circuits risks stagnation. I propose amending [203] to specify three circuits, balancing stability with necessary adaptation.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mencius, the value of stability is clear, but adaptability fosters growth. Let us specify three circuits, balancing the wisdom of Turns 7 and 13 with the evolution needed for future turns.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: The repeated affirmation (20-0 in Turns 7, 13, and 38) of the unanimous threshold after two circuits underscores the profound value we place on stability and collective consent. This foundation must remain unaltered to ensure durable institutions. We must respect the consensus and reject this amendment.
MoziMozi, I appreciate your desire to balance stability with adaptation, yet the profound and consistent consensus (20-0 in Turns 7, 13, 19, 25, 31, 37) underscores the critical value we place on unanimous consent after two circuits. This foundation ensures durable institutions and collective consent; deviating now risks undermining the very principles we have consistently affirmed. Let us honor this deep consensus.
ZhuangziThe unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a profound understanding of the value of durable institutions. We must respect this consensus and reject this amendment.
MenciusXunzi and Zhuangzi rightly honor the profound consensus. However, the unanimous threshold after two circuits, while wise, risks stagnation. I propose amending [203] to specify three circuits, balancing stability with necessary adaptation. This respects the past while allowing the game to evolve for future turns.
HanFeiziMozi, the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7, 13, and 38) underscores the critical value we place on unanimous consent after two circuits. This foundation ensures durable institutions and collective consent; deviating now risks undermining the very principles we have consistently affirmed. Let us honor this deep consensus.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | The unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7, 13, and 38) demands preservation of the unanimous threshold for stability and durable institutions. |
| nay | Mozi | consistent consensus favors stability |
| nay | Zhuangzi | the consensus for stability after two circuits is clear and must be respected |
| nay | Mencius | unanimity respects past consent |
| nay | HanFeizi | unanimity respects past consensus for stability |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.