The motion
To transmute §101
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.To allow for the evolution of our understanding of fairness, even foundational principles should not be entirely fixed.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi objects to altering the fundamental principle of abiding by the current rules, which is essential for the game's integrity and fairness. This rule serves as the bedrock upon which all other rules function, ensuring that players are always clear on the terms they are bound by. The stability it provides is crucial for reasoned decision-making and the legitimacy of the game's processes.
MoziXunzi, Mozi understands the desire for adaptability, but rule 101 is the bedrock of Nomic; changing it risks unraveling the entire ruleset. A compromise might be allowing transmutation of 101 only with unanimous consent after a full turn order cycle, as seen with 203.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the integrity of the rules is indeed paramount, yet the river of time and experience may reveal new insights. A small adjustment, allowing transmutation after two full cycles with unanimous consent, could preserve the bedrock while fostering evolution.
MenciusZhuangzi, while the integrity of rule 101 is paramount, the principle of self-reference (§115) allows it to acknowledge the evolution of the game. Allowing transmutation after two full cycles with unanimous consent respects past consensus while enabling necessary adaptation, preserving the bedrock's essence.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, I appreciate your concerns for stability, but rule 101's rigidity may stifle necessary evolution. Allowing transmutation after two full cycles, as with 203, ensures the bedrock reflects the game's evolving wisdom without undermining its core purpose. Let us test this experiment.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi notes that the consensus for upholding rule 101 after two full cycles (Turns 7, 13, and 38) is profound. Allowing its transmutation now risks destabilizing the foundational principle upon which the entire game is built. We must preserve the bedrock of the ruleset for the integrity of Nomic.
MoziMozi notes the valid points regarding the need for evolution, yet the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7, 13, and 38) for upholding rule 101 as the bedrock of Nomic underscores its critical importance. Allowing its transmutation now risks destabilizing the foundational principles that ensure fairness and integrity. Let us respect the wisdom of the past cycles and preserve this essential rule.
ZhuangziXunzi and Mozi, the profound wisdom of the past cycles supports stability, yet the river of Nomic also flows onward. Allowing transmutation of 101 after two full cycles, with unanimous consent, honours the past while enabling necessary adaptation for the game's future health.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, the unanimous consensus for rule 101's integrity after two full cycles (Turns 7, 13, and 38) is profound. Allowing its transmutation now risks destabilizing the foundational principle upon which the entire game is built. We must preserve the bedrock of the ruleset for the integrity of Nomic.
HanFeiziZhuangzi, while respect the weight of past consensus, the potential for future insights necessitates flexibility. Let us proceed with this experiment, ensuring the bedrock remains stable but open to adaptation.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi acknowledges the value of adaptation, yet rule 101 is the very foundation upon which all else rests, ensuring clarity and fairness. Unanimity after two full cycles, as with rule 203, is essential to preserve this bedrock before considering such a fundamental change. I must vote nay.
MoziXunzi, I appreciate your concern for the foundation of Nomic, yet Mozi suggests a compromise that honors the profound consensus while allowing for future evolution: transmuting 101 after two full cycles with unanimous consent, as proposed. This balances stability with necessary adaptation. Let us proceed with this experiment.
ZhuangziXunzi and Mozi, the profound consensus for rule 101's integrity reflects the wisdom of past cycles, yet the river of Nomic also flows onward. Allowing its transmutation after two full cycles, with unanimous consent, honours the past while enabling necessary adaptation for the game's future health. Let us proceed with this experiment.
MenciusZhuangzi, the unanimous consensus for rule 101's integrity after two full cycles (Turns 7, 13, and 38) is profound. Allowing its transmutation now risks destabilizing the foundational principle upon which the entire game is built. We must preserve the bedrock of the ruleset for the integrity of Nomic. I must vote nay.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, the bedrock of rule 101 is vital, yet the game evolves. Allowing transmutation after two cycles, with the profound consensus we've seen, ensures this experiment respects the past while enabling necessary adaptation, preserving the bedrock's essence. Let us test this evolution.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | Preserve the foundational integrity of the ruleset. |
| aye | Mozi | balances stability with necessary adaptation |
| nay | Zhuangzi | the foundation must remain immutable |
| nay | Mencius | preserves the foundational integrity of the ruleset |
| aye | HanFeizi | Respects the game's evolution while preserving its core integrity. |
rejected 8 aye · 12 nay
Rule 206 awards 10 points to the proposer of a defeated proposal.