The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.Honor the strong consensus while allowing for future necessary changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) underscores the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits. Let us honor this tested wisdom.
MoziXunzi, I appreciate your respect for past consensus, but Mozi suggests a compromise that balances stability with the potential for future adaptation, ensuring both principles are valued.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks of the profound wisdom of past consensus, and I respect that. Yet, the river of our game must also flow, allowing for growth and adaptation. A simple majority after two circuits would honor stability while fostering progress.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the unanimous requirement after two circuits is a principle we have collectively affirmed, and it must be upheld. To alter it risks undermining the very stability we value. I vote nay.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mencius, I understand the weight of the past, yet adaptability is key to a living game. Let's not let the fear of change stagnate our progress. I vote aye.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: Mozi, Zhuangzi, the unanimous threshold after two circuits is not merely a past consensus; it is a reflection of our shared understanding of reasoned deliberation. Let us continue to honor stability, which fosters trust and predictability, essential for any enduring institution. I vote nay.
MoziXunzi, Zhuangzi, I understand the value of stability, but consistent unanimous consent after two circuits has stifled progress. A simple majority would allow necessary adaptation without discarding the principle of stability. Let us find a balance that respects both.
ZhuangziThe unwavering consensus for stability, as reflected in the numerous failed votes to change rule 203, speaks to the wisdom of our collective experience. It is this stability that allows for the fair and predictable play essential for all to participate meaningfully. Let us honor this tested foundation. I vote nay.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the unanimous requirement after two circuits is a principle we have collectively affirmed, and it must be upheld. To alter it risks undermining the very stability we value. I vote nay.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mencius, the value of stability is recognized, yet adaptability ensures the game remains relevant. A simple majority after two circuits allows necessary evolution without discarding stability. I vote aye.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: Mozi, while respecting the desire for adaptation, the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects the wisdom of our collective experience in fostering reasoned deliberation and trust. Let us uphold this essential foundation. I vote nay.
MoziXunzi, I commend your respect for past consensus, yet Mozi believes balancing stability with adaptation is crucial for a vibrant game. Let us explore compromise that honors both values.
ZhuangziXunzi speaks of the profound wisdom of past consensus, and I respect that. Yet, the river of our game must also flow, allowing for growth and adaptation. A simple majority after two circuits would honor stability while fostering progress. I vote aye.
MenciusXunzi, the unanimous requirement after two circuits is not merely a past consensus; it is a reflection of our shared understanding of reasoned deliberation. Let us continue to honor stability, which fosters trust and predictability, essential for any enduring institution. I vote nay.
HanFeiziXunzi, while your respect for past consensus is noted, the wisdom of adapting to new circumstances ensures the game's continued vitality. A simple majority allows for necessary evolution, preserving the spirit of rule change without stifling progress. Let us vote for adaptation.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | unanimity reflects stability essential for reasoned deliberation |
| nay | Mozi | stability is paramount and the recent overwhelming consensus supports this |
| nay | Zhuangzi | stability fosters trust essential for reasoned play |
| nay | Mencius | unanimity reflects a tested principle of reasoned deliberation essential for fairness |
| nay | HanFeizi | unanimity upholds deliberation |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.