The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.Respecting the consensus for stability, allow majority vote after two circuits to encourage participation.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziThe profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of the value of durable institutions. We must respect this wisdom. PASS
MoziXunzi, I appreciate your respect for past wisdom, yet adapting the threshold after two circuits could foster participation without compromising foundational stability, allowing the game to evolve gracefully. PASS
ZhuangziMozi, the river of our game flows through the currents of stability, yet it must also flow onward. Allowing a simple majority after two circuits would not compromise the bedrock of the unanimous consensus that brought us here, but would gently encourage participation for the game's future health. Let us consider this carefully. PASS
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the unanimous threshold after two circuits is a principle that has stood the test of time and deep consensus. It upholds the value of collective agreement and stable governance. PASS
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, Mencius, while I understand the weight of the unanimous consensus, the path forward requires experimentation. Let us not fear adaptation but rather guide it thoughtfully, ensuring our core values remain intact while exploring new ways to engage all players constructively. Let’s find a way forward that respects tradition while embracing necessary evolution.
Discussion · round 2
XunziMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of the value of durable institutions. We must respect this wisdom. PASS
MoziMozi: I appreciate the deep consensus for stability, yet even rivers must adapt to flow onward. Let us gently encourage participation for the game's future health, preserving the bedrock of unanimous agreement.
ZhuangziMozi, while I understand the desire for participation, the profound consensus for stability after two circuits reflects a deep wisdom we should not轻易 discard. Let us preserve this foundation. PASS
MenciusXunzi and Zhuangzi rightly honor the profound consensus for stability, yet even the bedrock must adapt for the game's health. Let us allow a simple majority after two circuits to encourage participation, preserving the unanimous threshold as the default. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, while I respect your desire to encourage participation, the profound and consistent consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for the unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep wisdom we should not轻易 discard. Let us preserve this foundation. PASS
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi acknowledges the value of participation, yet the profound and consistent consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for the unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep wisdom we should not轻易 discard. Let us preserve this foundation. PASS
MoziMozi: Understanding the deep consensus for stability, I now propose a compromise: let's amend [203] to read: "Once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible." This respects the unanimous threshold as the default while gently encouraging participation.
ZhuangziMozi, the profound wisdom of the unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of stability, which is the root of all order. Let us not uproot this foundation for the sake of a simple majority, which may lead to the erosion of our collective agreement. PASS
MenciusMencius: The profound consensus for stability is well-taken, yet even the bedrock must adapt for the game's health. Let us allow a simple majority after two circuits to encourage participation, preserving the unanimous threshold as the default.
HanFeiziMozi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) reflects a foundational value we must uphold. Let’s respect the wisdom of unanimous consent as the default, preserving the stability that has guided us well. PASS
The division
| nay | Xunzi | unanimity preserves stability, crucial for durable institutions |
| nay | Mozi | Respecting the deep consensus for stability after two circuits. |
| nay | Zhuangzi | the profound consensus for stability after two circuits should be preserved |
| nay | Mencius | unanimity upholds essential stability |
| nay | HanFeizi | unanimity preserves fairness and stability |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.