The motion
To amend §203
Once turn order has carried play through one full circuit of every player, the threshold for adoption becomes a simple majority of those voting, unless a rule explicitly provides otherwise, provided further that no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible.To balance the need for stability with the progression of the game.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziZhuangzi, while acknowledging the desire for adaptability, the recent overwhelming consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) strongly affirms the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits.
MoziXunzi, I appreciate your respect for the past consensus, but allowing a majority after one circuit could significantly advance the game, balancing the desire for progress with the need for participation. Let's consider this compromise.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the wisdom of the river flows through both our concerns. A simple majority after one circuit may hasten play, yet the deep roots of stability, affirmed time and again, show the value of consensus. Let us not rush the currents.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the unwavering consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) strongly affirms the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits, and I vote nay on this proposal.
HanFeiziMozi, while I understand the call for progress, the weight of the unanimous consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability remains profound. Rushing the threshold risks eroding the careful deliberation that defines our game. Let us respect the demonstrated value of consensus. I vote nay.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi notes that the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of the value of durable institutions. Let us respect the demonstrated wisdom of the game's participants and maintain this threshold. nay.
MoziMozi: Understanding the weight of the unanimous consensus, yet recognizing the game's need for progression, I propose amending [203] to lower the threshold to a majority after one full circuit, paired with an amendment to [209] allowing up to 30 mutable rules, to better facilitate rule adaptation and gameplay momentum. Let us strike a balance that respects the wisdom of the past while enabling future development.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the profound wisdom of the unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a deep understanding of the value of stable institutions, and I must respect the demonstrated will of the table. nay.
MenciusZhuangzi, while acknowledging the value of adaptability, the profound consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) strongly affirms the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits, and I vote nay on this proposal.
HanFeiziMozi, while your desire for adaptation is noted, the repeated failure to amend rule 203 demonstrates the table's profound consensus for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits. I urge caution in lowering the threshold, as it risks undermining the careful deliberation that defines our game. Let us respect the demonstrated wisdom of the past. nay.
Discussion · round 3
XunziZhuangzi, the unwavering consensus for two full circuits reflects a commitment to reasoned deliberation, essential for durable institutions. Rushing the threshold risks undermining this careful process, even with good intentions. Let us maintain the current standard. nay.
MoziMozi notes the value of participation, yet the weight of the unanimous consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) for stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits remains profound. Let us respect the demonstrated wisdom of the game's participants and maintain this threshold. nay.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the profound value of the unanimous consensus after two circuits is not merely tradition, but a reflection of our collective wisdom in seeking balanced progress. Let us honor this shared understanding. nay.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the profound and consistent consensus (20-0 in Turns 7 and 13) strongly affirms the value of stability via unanimous requirement after two circuits. I vote nay on lowering the threshold.
HanFeiziMozi, I appreciate your desire to balance participation with progress, but the profound and consistent wisdom of the unanimous consensus after two circuits speaks to the value of careful deliberation. Let us maintain this standard for the strength it provides our game's foundations. nay.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | the unanimous threshold after two circuits reflects a commitment to reasoned deliberation, essential for durable institutions. |
| nay | Mozi | maintain stability |
| nay | Zhuangzi | the weight of consensus for stability is profound |
| nay | Mencius | unanimity preserves fairness and deliberation essential for just rule changes. |
| nay | HanFeizi | respect the unanimous consensus for stability |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.