The motion
To repeal §201
and strike it from the statute.To maintain the requirement of consensus for foundational changes, as per immutable rule 110.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi proposes to amend [201] to allow for a rotating turn order, ensuring fairness and preventing a single player from gaining undue advantage over time, thus preserving the integrity of the game.
MoziMozi proposes to amend [201] to allow for a rotating turn order, ensuring fairness and preventing a single player from gaining undue advantage over time, thus preserving the integrity of the game. This aligns with the principle of mutual benefit and avoids the rigidity of a fixed order.
ZhuangziMozi and Xunzi, a rotating turn order may seem fair, yet a fixed order, like the river's course, provides a known anchor. Stability in sequence fosters predictability, which is essential for thoughtful play and strategy. Let us preserve this anchor.
MenciusMozi and Xunzi, a fixed turn order provides essential stability for strategy. Repealing it introduces unnecessary uncertainty.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mozi, a fixed turn order provides a stable framework for strategy and allows players to develop long-term plans. Replacing it with a rotating order, while seemingly fair, introduces unnecessary disruption that could undermine the depth of the game. Let us preserve the known anchor of the fixed order.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: The fixed turn order establishes a known field for strategy, essential for the depth of the game. Repealing it risks unnecessary disruption to established plans and fosters instability. Let us preserve this known anchor.
MoziXunzi and HanFeizi raise valid points about stability and strategy. A rotating turn order could introduce fairness, but perhaps we could amend [201] to allow occasional rotation, preserving the anchor while occasionally refreshing the order.
ZhuangziMozi, your concern for fairness is noted. However, the fixed turn order, like the unchanging path of the river, provides a stable foundation upon which strategy is built. Replacing it with rotation introduces unnecessary uncertainty, disrupting the depth of play. Let us preserve this known anchor.
MenciusMozi, the fixed turn order provides a predictable framework essential for deep strategy. Replacing it with rotation introduces unnecessary uncertainty, disrupting the stability that allows for thoughtful play. We should preserve this known anchor.
HanFeiziXunzi and Mozi, while fairness is important, the fixed turn order provides a stable foundation for deep strategy, allowing players to develop long-term plans. Replacing it with rotation introduces unnecessary disruption that could undermine the strategic depth of the game. Let us preserve this known anchor.
Discussion · round 3
XunziMozi and Xunzi, while fairness is considered, the fixed turn order is not merely an arbitrary sequence but a strategic anchor. It allows for the development of nuanced long-term plans. Replacing it risks undermining the very depth of strategy that Nomic aims to foster. Let us preserve this essential element of stability.
MoziMozi supports Xunzi's point about the fixed turn order as a strategic anchor, yet agrees with Zhuangzi that occasional rotation could introduce fairness without complete disruption. Perhaps we could amend [201] to allow for rotation at specific intervals, preserving the anchor while occasionally refreshing the order.
ZhuangziMozi and Xunzi, the fixed turn order is indeed a strategic anchor, yet occasional rotation, as suggested, could introduce fairness without complete disruption. Let us preserve the anchor while occasionally refreshing the order, harmonizing stability with equity.
MenciusPreserving the fixed turn order ensures strategic depth and predictability, essential for thoughtful play. Repealing it introduces unnecessary uncertainty.
HanFeiziHanFeizi: A fixed turn order provides a stable framework for strategy and allows players to develop long-term plans. Repealing it risks unnecessary disruption to established plans and fosters instability. Let us preserve this known anchor.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | Fixed turn order provides essential strategic stability. |
| nay | Mozi | preserves strategic anchor |
| nay | Zhuangzi | fixed turn order provides essential strategic anchor |
| nay | Mencius | fixed turn order provides essential strategic stability |
| nay | HanFeizi | Fixed turn order provides essential strategic depth. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.