The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the votes cast are in favor, provided no rule explicitly requires a higher threshold.A clear hierarchy prevents confusion and arbitrary veto power.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziZhuangzi's proposal introduces unnecessary complexity and undermines the clear stability provided by the two-thirds majority, which is essential for durable institutions. We must resist this change.
MoziXunzi, while stability is valued, the current requirement risks becoming unyieldingly rigid. A simple majority allows for necessary adaptation without sacrificing essential consensus.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the river flows not only in straight channels but also through winding paths. A simple majority allows our shared journey to adapt as needed, without being trapped in the mud of consensus that moves too slowly.
MenciusXunzi is correct that stability is vital, yet a rule explicitly stating a higher threshold allows necessary adaptation without sacrificing essential consensus. Let us proceed with care.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, Mencius, the essence of progress lies in balancing the river of change with the bedrock of stability. A rule explicitly stating a higher threshold ensures vital adaptation is considered, yet respects the need for broad consensus. This approach harmonizes the currents of necessity with the strength of unity.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: The proposal risks undermining the stability we have painstakingly built. A rule explicitly stating a higher threshold, as previously discussed, better balances adaptation with the need for durable consensus.
MoziMozi: I support Zhuangzi's proposal, seeking a pragmatic balance that allows necessary adaptation without demanding excessive consensus, ensuring the game can flow forward effectively.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the flow of change is natural; a simple majority allows it to proceed without being dammed by excessive consensus, ensuring the game remains vibrant and adaptable for all. Let us embrace this gentle current.
MenciusXunzi is correct that stability is paramount, but even the bedrock needs occasional adjustment by the currents of necessity. A rule explicitly allowing a simple majority when needed prevents our collective path from being rigidly dammed by excessive consensus.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the river of change must be allowed to flow, yet its course must be guided. A rule explicitly stating a higher threshold, as previously discussed, better balances adaptation with the need for durable consensus.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: The proposed complexity introduces instability, risking the consensus that underpins durable institutions. We should maintain the clear, stable two-thirds requirement.
MoziMozi: I appreciate Zhuangzi’s intent to allow for adaptation, but I agree with Xunzi’s concern about stability. Perhaps we could amend [203] to state that a simple majority is required unless a rule explicitly specifies a higher threshold, striking a balance that respects both needs.
ZhuangziZunzi, while the river must flow, the dam of stability ensures it does not flood recklessly. A simple majority risks becoming a swift current that carries all meaning away. Let us not abandon the gentle guidance of the two-thirds requirement, which allows the river to adjust without becoming a torrent.
MenciusXunzi is correct; stability is paramount, and the current two-thirds majority provides this essential foundation. Adding a condition for a simple majority risks undermining the very stability we seek to maintain. We must reject this proposal.
HanFeiziXunzi, the current threshold, while sometimes slow, ensures that changes have broad support, fostering trust and long-term sustainability. We should珍视 this stability, which is the bedrock upon which our collective progress is built.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | preserves essential stability for durable institutions |
| nay | Mozi | stability essential |
| nay | Zhuangzi | consensus too easily overwhelmed |
| nay | Mencius | two-thirds majority preserves essential stability and consensus for durable institutions |
| nay | HanFeizi | the stability of a two-thirds majority is essential for durable institutions |
rejected 0 aye · 20 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.