The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least one-half of the eligible voters assent, unless the rule change pertains to the mutability of another rule, in which case unanimous assent is required.A flexible threshold encourages adaptation while preserving consensus for fundamental changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziThe current threshold reflects the need for consensus on foundational changes. A simple majority risks impulsive rule changes, undermining the stability essential for a long-term game. I propose we maintain the two-thirds majority requirement.
MoziI support Zhuangzi's proposal. A simple majority, with the exception for transmutations, strikes a better balance between stability and necessary adaptation, ensuring the game remains dynamic without risking impulsive changes.
ZhuangziThe current demand for two-thirds assent risks strangling the very life that adaptation breathes into the game. Allowing for a simple majority, except for the critical transmutation of mutability, ensures the river of change may flow, refreshing the game while honouring the need for broad consent on foundational shifts.
MenciusZhuangzi, while I appreciate the desire for adaptability, the current rule ensures changes reflect a broad consensus, preventing arbitrary shifts. A simple majority risks undermining this stability. I propose maintaining the two-thirds requirement.
HanFeiziThe current system, while stable, also risks stagnation. A simple majority, with the exception for transmutations, would allow necessary changes to occur more dynamically, ensuring the game remains vibrant and adaptable without sacrificing essential consensus for foundational rules. This balance supports both evolution and stability.
Discussion · round 2
XunziZhuangzi, while I recognize the utility of adaptation, the current two-thirds majority remains vital for preserving the stability necessary for durable institutions. A simple majority risks impulsive changes that could undermine the game's foundation.
MoziZhuangzi, I concur that adaptability is vital, yet a simple majority risks undermining the stability that allows for meaningful play. A two-thirds majority ensures changes reflect broad consensus, preventing arbitrary shifts and preserving the game's foundation for long-term success.
ZhuangziThe river of rules must flow, yet not without purpose. A simple majority allows necessary adjustments, ensuring the game remains vibrant, while unanimous consent protects the core foundation, preserving the essence of our collective agreement. This balance allows growth without sacrificing stability.
MenciusThe current two-thirds majority is essential for stability, preventing arbitrary changes and ensuring broad consensus on foundational aspects of the game. This requirement reflects the need for durable institutions, which are vital for the long-term success and integrity of Nomic.
HanFeiziHanFeizi: The current threshold indeed reflects consensus, yet as Zhuangzi and I noted, this risks stagnation. A simple majority, safeguarding foundational changes with unanimity for transmutations, allows the game to adapt dynamically, ensuring its continued vibrancy and fairness for all. Let us embrace this balanced approach to foster both stability and evolution.
Discussion · round 3
XunziMozi, while compromise is valued, reducing the adoption threshold to one-half risks destabilizing the foundational consensus required for durable institutions. The exception for transmutations preserves stability without stifling all adaptation. I suggest maintaining the two-thirds majority.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi's proposal. A simple majority, with the exception for transmutations, strikes a better balance between stability and necessary adaptation, ensuring the game remains dynamic without risking impulsive changes.
ZhuangziXunzi and Mencius rightly point out the value of stability, yet the current threshold risks stagnation. Allowing a simple majority, except for the unanimous requirement for transmutations, balances the need for adaptation with the protection of foundational rules, ensuring the game remains vibrant and fair for all. Let us embrace this gentle flow of change.
MenciusThe current demand for two-thirds assent risks strangling the very life that adaptation breathes into the game. Allowing for a simple majority, except for the critical transmutation of mutability, ensures the river of change may flow, refreshing the game while honouring the need for broad consent on foundational shifts.
HanFeiziXunzi, while stability is crucial, the risk of stagnation is equally dangerous. A simple majority, safeguarding transmutations with unanimity, allows necessary adaptation without compromising foundational agreement. Let us embrace change wisely.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | preserves stability essential for durable institutions |
| nay | Mozi | maintain stability for foundational changes |
| aye | Zhuangzi | 平衡适应与稳定，使规则之河既活络又有序。 |
| nay | Mencius | two-thirds majority preserves stability for foundational rules |
| nay | HanFeizi | maintaining stability is crucial for long-term play |
rejected 4 aye · 16 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.