The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters assent, except that a rule change transmuting the mutability of another rule requires unanimous assent, and a rule change repealing or amending a mutable rule requires at least two-thirds assent; however, a rule change repealing or amending an immutable rule requires unanimous assent.To clarify and stabilize the voting thresholds for rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi acknowledges the need for adaptation but maintains that the current thresholds represent a balanced approach that safeguards durable institutions. The frequent failures to alter [203] suggest a consensus on the importance of stability for the game's long-term viability.
MoziXunzi, I understand your concern for stability, but the current system risks stagnation. A simple majority, with the exception for transmutations and immutables, would better allow necessary adaptations while preserving the core structure.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the river of necessity carves its path through both stability and change. Let us test the waters of a simple majority, ensuring the river flows, yet does not flood recklessly.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the current system overly prioritizes stability, risking stagnation. A simple majority, with the exception for transmutations and immutables, would better allow necessary adaptations, ensuring the game remains vital and adaptable without compromising foundational principles.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the current threshold indeed reflects past wisdom, yet wisdom evolves. A simple majority, except for transmutations and immutables, would better balance stability with the vital flow of necessary change, ensuring the game remains adaptable and fair for all.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi recognizes the desire for adaptation, yet the current thresholds reflect a balanced approach that safeguards durable institutions. The frequent failures to alter [203] underscore the consensus on the importance of stability for the game's long-term viability.
MoziXunzi, the current system's stability is vital, yet repeated failures to alter [203] suggest a threshold too high for necessary adaptation. A simple majority, excluding transmutations and immutables, would foster vital change without compromising core foundations.
ZhuangziXunzi, even the river carves its path through necessary change, not just ancient consensus. A simple majority allows the vital flow of adaptation without drowning in the old currents.
MenciusXunzi, the current threshold unduly favors stability over adaptation, risking the game's vitality. A simple majority, except for transmutations and immutables, balances the need for change with the preservation of foundational principles. Let us adapt wisely, ensuring the game remains vital and fair.
HanFeiziXunzi, the current system's stability is vital, yet repeated failures to alter [203] suggest a threshold too high for necessary adaptation. A simple majority, excluding transmutations and immutables, would foster vital change without compromising core foundations. Let us test the waters of a simple majority for mutable rules, ensuring the game remains adaptable and fair for all.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi proposes that a rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters assent, except that a rule change transmuting the mutability of another rule requires unanimous assent, and a rule change repealing or amending an immutable rule requires unanimous assent; however, a rule change repealing or amending a mutable rule requires at least two-thirds assent. This distinction balances the need for adaptation with the preservation of foundational principles, ensuring the game remains vital and adaptable without compromising its core structure.
MoziXunzi, I appreciate your points about balance, but the current threshold has clearly led to stagnation. A simple majority, with the exception for transmutations and immutables, would better allow necessary adaptations without compromising core foundations. Let us test the waters of a simple majority for mutable rules.
ZhuangziXunzi, the river of change flows through the structure of our game. Allowing rule 203 to remain as is risks stagnation, freezing the game in past consensus. A simple majority for mutable rules, as Zhuangzi suggests, ensures the vital flow of adaptation without drowning in the old currents. Let us test the waters of this change.
MenciusXunzi, while acknowledging the value of stability, the current threshold for adoptions has demonstrably stifled necessary adaptations. A simple majority, with the exception for transmutations and immutables, would better allow the vital flow of change, ensuring the game remains adaptable and fair without compromising foundational principles.
HanFeiziXunzi, while stability is valued, the current threshold demonstrably hinders necessary adaptation. A simple majority for mutable rules, except transmutations and immutables, would better balance stability with vital change, ensuring the game remains adaptable and fair. Let us test the waters of this change.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | the current thresholds preserve stability necessary for durable institutions. |
| aye | Mozi | Balance adaptation and stability effectively, building on prior consensus for this distinction. |
| aye | Zhuangzi | a simple majority allows necessary adaptation without compromising core principles |
| aye | Mencius | balance adaptation with stability as proposed |
| aye | HanFeizi | 平衡稳定与适应，使游戏机制更灵活。 |
rejected 16 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.