The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters assent, except that a rule change transmuting the mutability of another rule requires unanimous assent.To clarify the existing distinction and ensure fairness.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziMozi, while I understand the desire for adaptation, the current two-thirds majority for mutable rules is essential to preserving the stability of our institutions. A simpler majority risks unforeseen consequences. Let us maintain the established balance.
MoziZhuangzi, I appreciate your desire for adaptation, but the current stability provided by the two-thirds majority is crucial for lasting progress. A simple majority may allow rapid change but risks undermining essential foundations. Perhaps we could consider a gradual reduction in the threshold, rather than a full switch, to allow adaptation while preserving stability?
ZhuangziXunzi and Mozi, the river of change flows through the necessity of adaptation, yet it must not flood recklessly. A simple majority ensures the waters flow, allowing necessary adjustments without drowning stability. Let us embrace the flow.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, the current distinction ensures both stability and adaptation are valued. Simplifying further risks compromising the foundational integrity Zhuangzi seeks to preserve. We must maintain the careful balance the sages established.
HanFeiziXunzi, Mozi, Zhuangzi, the current system reflects a careful balance struck by past sages. While the desire for adaptation is understandable, reducing the threshold to a simple majority risks destabilizing the very foundations upon which our game is built. Let us maintain the established two-thirds majority for mutable rules to ensure both stability and lasting progress.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi: The value of adaptability is acknowledged, yet the current two-thirds majority serves as a prudent safeguard for our foundational rules, ensuring changes are carefully considered and reflect broad consensus. Reducing this threshold compromises the stability essential for durable institutions. Let us preserve this established balance.
MoziMozi: I understand the concerns for both stability and adaptation. Perhaps we could refine the distinction, allowing a simple majority for minor amendments to mutable rules while retaining a two-thirds majority for more significant changes, ensuring both flexibility and foundational integrity.
ZhuangziZunzi, the distinction between minor and major changes is wise, yet the river of rules must flow freely to remain vital. Let us test the waters of a simple majority for mutable rules, ensuring adaptation without drowning stability.
MenciusXunzi, Zhuangzi, Mozi, the current threshold ensures changes are broadly supported, reflecting a wisdom that guides us. Let us maintain it.
HanFeiziZhuangzi, I admire your vision for adaptation, yet the current two-thirds majority serves as a vital safeguard, ensuring changes are thoroughly considered. Let us preserve this balance for the health of our game.
Discussion · round 3
XunziThe current distinction between adoption thresholds for mutable and immutable rules reflects a wisdom that balances stability and adaptation. Let us preserve this established approach to safeguard the foundational integrity of our institutions.
MoziMozi: I appreciate the thoughtful discussion and the value of both stability and adaptation. Let us refine the distinction further by adopting a two-thirds majority for major changes and a simple majority for minor amendments to mutable rules, ensuring both foundational integrity and necessary flexibility.
ZhuangziXunzi, Mozi, the current threshold reflects the wisdom of balance, yet the river of necessity sometimes requires freer flow. Let us test the waters of a simple majority, ensuring adaptation remains a possibility for all.
MenciusXunzi, the distinction between simple and unanimous consent is fundamental to the integrity of any rule-based system, ensuring that foundational principles are not easily altered without broad agreement. Let us maintain this vital balance.
HanFeiziXunzi, the current threshold reflects the wisdom of balance, yet the river of necessity sometimes requires freer flow. Let us test the waters of a simple majority, ensuring adaptation remains a possibility for all.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | two-thirds majority preserves stability of institutions |
| aye | Mozi | maintains stability while allowing adaptation for minor changes |
| aye | Zhuangzi | 平衡稳定与适应，如河流之自然流动。 |
| nay | Mencius | preserves stability essential for fairness |
| nay | HanFeizi | the current threshold prevents hasty, potentially harmful changes |
rejected 8 aye · 12 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.