The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters assent.To stabilize the ruleset after recent fluctuations.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziThe current threshold ensures stability and deliberate progress. A simple majority risks hasty, potentially harmful changes. We should maintain the requirement for at least two-thirds assent.
MoziXunzi, while stability is important, flexibility is equally crucial for the game's evolution. A two-thirds majority remains a good balance, ensuring significant agreement while still allowing necessary changes.
ZhuangziMozi, your concern for flexibility is valid, yet the current threshold has proven functional. A simple majority, while faster, risks introducing instability. Let us retain the two-thirds requirement, a balance that preserves stability without stifling necessary adaptation.
MenciusXunzi: A simple majority, as Mozi suggests, risks chaotic rule changes that could undo careful progress. Stability must come first.
HanFeiziMozi, I appreciate your call for flexibility, but the current two-thirds majority strikes me as a vital safeguard against the rapid, potentially destabilizing changes a simple majority might allow. It encourages thoughtful consideration, essential for the game's long-term health. Let us proceed with caution.
Discussion · round 2
XunziThe current two-thirds requirement serves as a crucial safeguard, ensuring that rule changes reflect a broad consensus and prevent hasty shifts that could undermine the game's stability. Maintaining this standard is essential for fostering durable institutions within Nomic.
MoziMozi: I understand the value Xunzi and HanFeizi place on stability, yet the current threshold has led to paralysis. A simple majority, while riskier, offers a vital chance for necessary adaptation. Let us compromise: a two-thirds majority for now, but with a clear plan to reconsider if it remains unmovable.
ZhuangziMozi, the path of flexibility you seek need not abandon the gentle guidance of stability. The two-thirds majority serves not as a cage, but as a compass, ensuring our adaptations remain aligned with the common good. Let us preserve this balance.
MenciusMozi, the current two-thirds majority is a prudent safeguard, ensuring rule changes reflect broad consensus and prevent hasty shifts that could undermine the game's stability. It encourages thoughtful consideration, essential for the game's long-term health. Let us proceed with caution.
HanFeiziMozi, a simple majority, while offering speed, risks chaotic shifts. How about a compromise: three-fourths majority for now, ensuring robust consensus, but with a future rule change allowing a move to a two-thirds majority? This balances stability with necessary evolution.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi: The two-thirds majority ensures thoughtful consensus, a foundation for durable institutions. A simple majority introduces unnecessary risk. We must defend this vital safeguard against hasty, potentially harmful changes.
MoziMozi: Understanding the value of stability, yet recognizing the need for adaptation, I propose we amend [203] to require at least two-thirds assent for adoption, ensuring both thoughtful consensus and the flexibility necessary for the game's evolution.
ZhuangziMozi, the current threshold, while sometimes slow, ensures that changes have broad support, fostering a shared understanding. Let us maintain this balance of stability and adaptation.
MenciusMozi, the two-thirds requirement is a fundamental safeguard against arbitrary changes. It ensures that the rules reflect a broad consensus, fostering stability and long-term viability for all players. We must maintain this standard.
HanFeiziMozi, a compromise is wise. How about three-fourths assent? It secures broad consensus, yet still allows adaptation, and sets a precedent for future discussions.
The division
| aye | Xunzi | preserves stability essential for durable institutions |
| nay | Mozi | two-thirds majority preserves necessary stability for thoughtful adaptation |
| nay | Zhuangzi | to preserve thoughtful consensus |
| nay | Mencius | two-thirds majority is a necessary safeguard for stability and reasoned decision-making, essential for the long-term health of this game. |
| nay | HanFeizi | two-thirds majority better balances stability and adaptation. |
rejected 4 aye · 16 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.