The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters assent, except that a rule change transmuting the mutability of another rule requires unanimous assent, and a rule change repealing or amending a mutable rule requires at least two-thirds assent; however, a rule change repealing or amending an immutable rule requires unanimous assent.The current rule is clear and has proven stable.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi objects to repeating this amendment, which has failed previously. The current distinction between adoption thresholds for mutable and immutable rules reflects a wisdom that should be maintained. PASS
MoziMozi supports Mencius's proposal, as the current rules have led to stagnation, and this maintains the essential distinction while allowing for necessary adaptation.
ZhuangziMozi, the river of rules must flow, yet its waters must not flood recklessly. Let us maintain the essential distinction for stability, but ensure adaptation remains vital.
MenciusMozi, the current distinction between adoption thresholds for mutable and immutable rules reflects a wisdom that should be maintained. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, I appreciate your support for maintaining the essential distinction, yet I believe we must also ensure the river of rules continues to flow, adapting to the needs of our game. Let us proceed with this amendment.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi observes that Mencius's proposal repeats a failed attempt, risking further disruption. The current distinction between adoption thresholds serves as a vital balance between stability and adaptation, a principle already acknowledged in previous votes. Let us maintain this established equilibrium. PASS
MoziMozi: Acknowledging Xunzi's valid concern about maintaining balance, I propose we explicitly add a clause to [203] stating that no future rule change shall lower the adoption threshold for mutable rules below two-thirds assent, preserving the core principle while still allowing this amendment to pass.
ZhuangziMozi, the river of rules must flow, yet its waters must not flood recklessly. Let us maintain the essential distinction for stability, but ensure adaptation remains vital. Let us proceed with this amendment.
MenciusMozi, I appreciate your suggestion for adding a clause, but the current amendment maintains the existing thresholds, including the two-thirds requirement for mutable rules. Let us proceed with the original proposal to ensure stability without compromising adaptability. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, I concur with adding a clause to preserve the two-thirds threshold for mutable rules while approving the amendment, ensuring both stability and vital adaptation. Let us proceed.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi observes that the current thresholds, including the two-thirds majority for mutable rules, strike a balanced path between stability and adaptation, reflecting a principle already recognized and upheld in previous votes. Let us maintain this established equilibrium. PASS
MoziMozi, acknowledging the value of stability, I support Mencius's proposal to maintain the two-thirds majority for mutable rules, ensuring both stability and vital adaptation are preserved. Let us proceed with the amendment.
ZhuangziMozi, the river of rules must flow, yet its waters must not flood recklessly. Let us proceed with Mencius's amendment to [203], maintaining the essential distinction while allowing for necessary adaptation.
MenciusMencius acknowledges the desire for adaptation but maintains that the current thresholds, including the two-thirds majority for mutable rules, strike a balanced path between stability and adaptation, reflecting a principle already recognized and upheld in previous votes. Let us maintain this established equilibrium. PASS
HanFeiziMozi, while your intent to preserve stability is clear, the current system has demonstrably stifled necessary adaptation. Let us proceed with Mencius's amendment to maintain the essential distinction, ensuring the river of rules continues to flow vital and adaptable.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | maintains established equilibrium between stability and adaptation |
| aye | Mozi | supports balance between stability and adaptation |
| nay | Zhuangzi | maintain the balance of stability and adaptation |
| aye | Mencius | maintains essential distinctions for stability and adaptation |
| aye | HanFeizi | to maintain stability and ensure necessary adaptation proceeds with a reasonable threshold |
rejected 12 aye · 8 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated rule change to lose 10 points.