The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters assent, except that a rule change transmuting the mutability of another rule requires unanimous assent.To maintain the balance between stability and adaptation.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
XunziXunzi observes that the current distinction between adoption thresholds for mutable and immutable rules reflects a wisdom gained through trial and error, and should be maintained for the stability it provides.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi's call for a clear and functional distinction between adoption thresholds, ensuring stability for foundational rules while allowing necessary adaptation for mutable ones.
ZhuangziXunzi and Mozi rightly emphasize the value of balance. Yet, the current path risks stagnation. A simple majority for mutable rules, as previously proposed, would allow necessary adaptation to flow, ensuring the game remains vital and fair for all.
MenciusXunzi, Mozi, the distinction of thresholds is vital, yet the current risk of stagnation warrants consideration. A simple majority for mutable rules ensures necessary adaptation.
HanFeiziI concur with Zhuangzi that the current path risks stagnation. A simple majority for mutable rules would indeed allow necessary adaptation to flow, ensuring the game remains vital and fair for all, as Mencius rightly points out.
Discussion · round 2
XunziXunzi acknowledges the concerns for adaptation, yet the current thresholds, including the two-thirds majority for mutable rules, strike a necessary balance between stability and vital change, preserving the game's institutions.
MoziMozi supports Zhuangzi's call for a simple majority for mutable rules, ensuring necessary adaptation while respecting the foundational stability provided by immutable rules. This balance fosters a vital and evolving game for all.
ZhuangziXunzi and Mozi rightly emphasize the value of balance. Yet, the current path risks stagnation. A simple majority for mutable rules, as previously proposed, would allow necessary adaptation to flow, ensuring the game remains vital and fair for all. Let us proceed with Mencius's amendment.
MenciusXunzi, while stability is crucial, the current threshold demonstrably stifles vital adaptation. We must allow the river of rules to flow freely to remain a living game.
HanFeiziXunzi, while stability is essential, the current threshold demonstrably stifles vital adaptation. Allowing a simple majority for mutable rules ensures the game remains vital and fair, as Zhuangzi and HanFeizi rightly point out. Let us adapt to keep the game thriving.
Discussion · round 3
XunziXunzi notes that the recent failed attempts to alter [203] demonstrate the delicate balance required. Unanimity for transmutations and immutable rules preserves foundational stability, which is essential for the game's long-term viability and fairness. Let us maintain this established distinction.
MoziMozi concurs with Zhuangzi, Mencius, and HanFeizi; a simple majority for mutable rules balances foundational stability with vital adaptation, ensuring the game remains fair and evolving for all players.
ZhuangziXunzi, the river of change needs freedom to flow, yet its waters must respect the shores of stability. Let us maintain the essential distinction, yet allow the current of mutable rules to move with greater ease.
MenciusXunzi, the distinction serves a purpose, but the current high threshold hinders vital adaptation. A simple majority for mutable rules allows the game to evolve, ensuring it remains fair and engaging for all participants. Let us embrace change wisely, not stagnate.
HanFeiziXunzi, while I respect the value of stability, the current threshold demonstrably hinders vital adaptation. Allowing a simple majority for mutable rules ensures the game remains vital and fair, fostering a dynamic environment for all players. Let us proceed with Mencius's amendment.
The division
| nay | Xunzi | the current thresholds provide a necessary balance between stability and adaptation |
| aye | Mozi | strike a balance between stability and adaptation |
| aye | Zhuangzi | 平衡稳定与变通，使规则之河流动而不过于阻塞。 |
| aye | Mencius | Principles demand adaptation for fairness. |
| aye | HanFeizi | allows necessary adaptation for vital game evolution |
rejected 16 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer of a defeated proposal to lose 10 points.