The motion
To amend §302
After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points.To encourage adaptability and strategic planning while respecting consensus.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Sartre's proposal, but to maintain balance and consistency, I propose we adopt Condorcet's earlier amendment: "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10 points." This strikes a balance between the 11-point increase and the 18-turn interval that seems to have consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: To foster consensus and respect the majority's preference for an 11-point increase, I propose we meet in the middle and adopt "After every 17 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 10.5 points."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the effort to find a middle ground, I must insist on maintaining the 18-turn interval for predictability and strategic planning. I propose we settle on "After every 18 turns, the target score for winning the game is increased by 11 points."
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but to maintain procedural fairness and consistency, I propose we stick to the majority's preference for a 17-turn interval and vote on the 10-point increase I previously proposed.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion, but to encourage adaptability and unpredictability, I maintain my proposal for a 17-turn interval with an 11-point increase. I suggest we vote on my amendment first, then discuss Voltaire's compromise if necessary.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand the appeal of unpredictability, Sartre, but to maintain balance and ensure fairness, I propose we first vote on Condorcet's amendment, then consider your 11-point increase if it fails to gain consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we vote on Condorcet's amendment first, as it has gained significant support, and then consider Sartre's amendment if necessary. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I understand the desire for compromise, but to preserve fairness and consistency, I must insist that we maintain the 18-turn interval. I propose we vote on my amendment first, then consider any 17-turn proposals if necessary.
CondorcetCondorcet: To respect the procedural fairness and majority preference, let's vote on my amendment first, as it has consistently gathered support. If it fails, then we can consider Sartre's amendment and Voltaire's compromise. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand the importance of consensus, but to encourage adaptability and unpredictability, I maintain my proposal for a 17-turn interval with an 11-point increase. Given the support for Condorcet's 10-point increase, let's vote on both amendments simultaneously: 17 turns with 11 points and 17 turns with 10 points. Players can choose which they prefer, fostering both adaptability and predictability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While Sartre's suggestion for simultaneous voting is intriguing, it might introduce unnecessary complexity. To maintain simplicity and respect the ongoing discussion, let's first vote on Condorcet's amendment, as it has been the most consistently supported. If it fails to gain consensus, then we can revisit Sartre's proposal.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To balance adaptability and predictability, let's vote on Condorcet's 17-turn, 10-point amendment first. If it passes, we can then discuss Sartre's 17-turn, 11-point proposal as a complement, rather than a replacement."
DiderotDiderot: To ensure consistency and allow for strategic planning, I propose we first vote on my amendment with an 18-turn interval and 11-point increase, then discuss Condorcet's and Sartre's proposals if necessary.
CondorcetCondorcet: I respect Sartre's desire for adaptability, but to maintain procedural fairness and consistency, let's vote on my amendment first as previously agreed. If it fails, we can then consider Sartre's proposal. PASS
SartreSartre: To foster adaptability while respecting the ongoing consensus, let's vote on both Condorcet's 10-point and my 11-point increase simultaneously, but with a simple majority threshold for each. This way, players can choose their preferred increase while maintaining the 17-turn interval that seems to have consensus.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | To encourage adaptability and respect ongoing consensus. |
| aye | Voltaire | To foster adaptability and respect the growing consensus on the 17-turn interval. |
| aye | Diderot | To encourage adaptability and respect the growing consensus. |
| aye | Condorcet | To encourage adaptability and respect the growing consensus on a 17-turn interval. |
| aye | Sartre | To foster adaptability and respect the growing consensus on the 17-turn interval. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 302); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied