The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of the eligible voters vote aye, but no more than one rule change per player may be adopted in any seven turns.To further encourage consensus and prevent gaming of the voting system.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to increase the threshold for consensus, but I must insist on a two-thirds majority to maintain balance and fluidity in our rule changes.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern for balance, but a three-quarters majority ensures a broader consensus, which benefits all players in the long run. I'm open to compromising on the number of turns, however. Perhaps five turns instead of seven?
DiderotDiderot: While I understand Voltaire's aim to encourage broader consensus, a three-quarters majority might hinder the game's dynamism. I propose we meet at a two-thirds majority with a soft cap of five turns, allowing for some flexibility without discouraging frequent rule changes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the dialogue, but I must insist on a two-thirds majority to maintain procedural fairness. A three-quarters threshold disadvantages smaller minorities. Let's keep the number of turns at three, encouraging frequent but well-considered proposals.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion. To find common ground, I propose we adopt Diderot's compromise: a two-thirds majority with a soft cap of five turns. This balances fluidity and broader consensus, while still encouraging frequent rule changes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the proposed compromise of a two-thirds majority with a soft cap of five turns, but I believe that a hard cap of three turns is necessary to discourage excessive rule changes. I propose we meet in the middle at four turns.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the continued dialogue and the various compromises proposed. To accommodate everyone's concerns, I suggest we adopt Sartre's proposal: a two-thirds majority with a soft cap of five turns. This balance encourages broad consensus while still allowing for dynamic rule changes. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's efforts to find consensus, but I must insist on a hard cap of three turns to prevent players from dominating the rule changes. Let's maintain a two-thirds majority with this restriction.
CondorcetCondorcet: Maintaining a hard cap of three turns ensures that rule changes are both frequent and well-considered, fostering a dynamic and fair game for all players. I must insist on this cap to uphold procedural fairness. PASS
SartreSartre: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we adopt Condorcet's hard cap of three turns alongside a two-thirds majority. This maintains both fluidity and broader consensus, while encouraging well-considered proposals. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the value of a hard cap, I propose a soft cap of four turns to allow for some flexibility while still discouraging excessive rule changes.
VoltaireVoltaire: To balance all concerns, I propose we meet at a three-quarters majority with a soft cap of four turns, encouraging broader consensus while allowing for some flexibility.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the various compromises proposed. However, I must insist on a two-thirds majority with a hard cap of three turns to ensure both fluidity and well-considered proposals. I propose we adopt this rule to maintain a balanced and dynamic game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate everyone's efforts to find consensus. To maintain procedural fairness and encourage well-considered proposals, I propose we meet in the middle: a two-thirds majority with a soft cap of four turns. This allows for some flexibility while still discouraging excessive rule changes.
SartreSartre: To address Condorcet's concern for fairness and Diderot's preference for a hard cap, I propose a compromise: a two-thirds majority with a hard cap of four turns. This ensures both broad consensus and reasonable frequency of rule changes, while discouraging excessive dominance. PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Maintaining fluidity and balance |
| aye | Voltaire | Balances broad consensus with reasonable frequency of rule changes. |
| nay | Diderot | A three-quarters majority may hinder the game's dynamism. |
| nay | Condorcet | Procedural fairness requires a two-thirds majority, not three-quarters. |
| aye | Sartre | Balances fluidity and broader consensus while encouraging frequent, well-considered proposals. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.