The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any five consecutive turns.Encouraging more frequent rule changes while maintaining player balance.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaignePASS, though I note that this amendment might lead to increased frequency of rule changes, potentially destabilizing the game. I propose a compromise: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any seven consecutive turns."
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's concern for stability. To maintain a balance between flexibility and consistency, I propose a middle ground: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any six consecutive turns."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing negotiation, I must insist on maintaining the current limit of one rule change per player in any five consecutive turns. This ensures a balance between rapid adaptation and strategic planning.
CondorcetCondorcet: PASS, but I urge caution. Increasing the limit too rapidly may lead to chaotic rule changes. Let's maintain the limit at two rule changes per player in any six consecutive turns, as Voltaire has proposed, and monitor its effects before further adjustments.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the cautious approach by Condorcet and the compromises proposed by Montaigne and Voltaire. To find common ground, I suggest we adopt Condorcet's proposal of "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any six consecutive turns." This maintains a balance between adaptability and consistency while giving players more flexibility. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Sartre's attempt to find a compromise, but I maintain that six consecutive turns for two rule changes is still too high. I propose we meet at four turns, as a balance between adaptability and stability.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern for stability, but increasing the limit to four turns may hinder the flexibility needed for strategic gameplay. Let's meet in the middle at five turns, maintaining a balance between adaptability and consistency.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for increased flexibility, I must reiterate my concern for strategic planning. Let's maintain the current limit of one rule change per player in any five consecutive turns to preserve a balance between adaptation and long-term strategy. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: PASS. I maintain my support for five consecutive turns, as proposed by Voltaire. This balance allows for adaptability while preventing excessive rule changes.
SartreSartre: PASS, but with a reservation. While I understand the desire for increased flexibility, I worry that a limit of two rule changes in five turns might lead to hasty decisions. Let's reconsider this at a later stage when we have more experience with the game's dynamics.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the ongoing discussion and the various proposals, I suggest we adopt Condorcet's proposal of "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any five consecutive turns." This maintains a balance between adaptability and consistency while addressing concerns about strategic planning and excessive rule changes. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: While I understand Montaigne's concern for balance, I propose we increase the limit to six consecutive turns to provide more flexibility for strategic gameplay. I'm open to further discussion to find the optimal balance.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I must insist on maintaining the current limit of one rule change per player in any five consecutive turns to preserve a balance between adaptation and long-term strategy. However, to address concerns about flexibility, I propose a 'reset' after each player has taken their turn once, allowing for more rule changes over the course of a full round.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand Voltaire's desire for increased flexibility, but I maintain my support for five consecutive turns. Diderot's proposal to reset after each player's turn addresses the concern of long-term strategic planning without restricting adaptability. I propose we adopt Diderot's suggestion: "A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any five consecutive turns, resetting after each player's turn." PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's proposal for a reset after each player's turn, addressing both adaptability and strategic planning. To further encourage consistent engagement, I propose we also reset the limit after each player's turn, ensuring every player has an equal opportunity to influence the game's evolution. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Respects Condorcet's concern for balance and Diderot's proposal for a reset. |
| aye | Voltaire | Balances adaptability and consistency, with a reasonable reset period. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining the current limit ensures a balance between adaptation and long-term strategy. |
| aye | Condorcet | I support the reset after each player's turn, as proposed by Condorcet and Sartre. |
| aye | Sartre | Sartre's proposal for a reset after each player's turn balances adaptability and strategic planning. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 15 · Proposal §315 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than one rule change per player may be adopted in any five consecutive turns.A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any five consecutive turns.
Rule 202 awards 5 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.