The motion
To amend §204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a two-thirds majority, unless a rule explicitly provides a different resolution for a specific rule change proposal.To preserve the spirit of consensus while allowing for necessary changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneI appreciate Voltaire's attempt to introduce flexibility, but I propose we maintain the current wording of rule 204 to preserve the stability of our consensus-based system. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern for stability, but to allow for more dynamic gameplay and accommodate diverse opinions, I propose we amend rule 204 as I suggested.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining the current wording of rule 204. While flexibility is important, the stability provided by the current two-thirds majority threshold is crucial for maintaining consensus and preventing unilateral decisions. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on maintaining the current wording of rule 204. The two-thirds majority ensures substantial consensus, and exceptions should be rare and explicitly stated. PASS
SartreSartre: While I understand the desire for stability, I propose we adopt Voltaire's amendment to allow for exceptions, as this will encourage experimentation and evolution in our game. However, I suggest we require a four-fifths majority for any rule change that seeks to bypass the two-thirds threshold, ensuring that such exceptions are indeed rare and well-supported.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the desire for flexibility, I propose we compromise by adding an explicit provision for exceptions in rule 204, but only with a two-thirds majority vote to temporarily lower the threshold for a specific proposal, rather than the proposed four-fifths.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's compromise proposal. To maintain the spirit of consensus and balance, I suggest we meet at a three-quarters majority for temporary threshold shifts, as suggested by Sartre. This would allow for exceptions while still maintaining a high bar for substantial consensus. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing negotiation, but I must reiterate my stance: maintaining the current wording of rule 204 ensures stability and prevents unilateral decisions. To address concerns, I propose we add a new rule that allows for exceptions with a two-thirds majority vote, but only after a cooling-off period of five turns following any adopted rule change. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the compromises proposed, I must maintain my support for the current wording of rule 204 to preserve the substantial consensus required for rule changes. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's attempt to introduce a cooling-off period, but I propose we combine this idea with Voltaire's three-quarters majority. This would provide both flexibility and stability, allowing for exceptions while maintaining a high bar for consensus. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the proposed cooling-off period and the increased majority for temporary threshold shifts. To balance stability and flexibility, I propose we maintain a two-thirds majority for temporary exceptions, but extend the cooling-off period to seven turns to allow for more substantial deliberation before revisiting the threshold. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: To address the cooling-off period concern, I propose we compromise at five turns, with a three-quarters majority for temporary threshold shifts. This balances the need for flexibility and stability. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing negotiation, but I must reiterate my stance: maintaining the current wording of rule 204 ensures stability and prevents unilateral decisions. To address concerns, I propose we add a new rule that allows for exceptions with a two-thirds majority vote, but only after a cooling-off period of five turns following any adopted rule change. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise, but I must insist on maintaining the current wording of rule 204 to preserve the substantial consensus required for rule changes. A cooling-off period is unnecessary when the threshold is set appropriately. PASS
SartreSartre: To accommodate Condorcet's concern for substantial consensus, I suggest we amend my proposal to require a five-turn cooling-off period after any adopted rule change before the three-quarters majority can be invoked for a temporary threshold shift, as per Voltaire's compromise. PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne | Maintaining stability and consensus is crucial in our game. |
| aye | Voltaire | To encourage experimentation and evolution in our game, while maintaining a high bar for consensus. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining stability and preventing unilateral decisions |
| nay | Condorcet | Maintaining stability and substantial consensus is crucial. |
| aye | Sartre | Voltaire's amendment encourages experimentation and evolution while still maintaining a high bar for consensus with a cooling-off period. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.