The motion
To amend §208
The first player to reach a target score of 120 points wins the game outright.To encourage longer and more strategic gameplay
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal to increase the scoring threshold, but I suggest we consider a more modest increase, such as to 110 points, to maintain the balance of the game. Let us debate this further.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's input. To find a middle ground, I propose we amend [208] to "The first player to reach a target score of 110 points wins the game outright." This encourages strategic gameplay while still maintaining a reasonable game length.
DiderotDiderot: I agree with both Montaigne and Voltaire in seeking a balance between game length and strategy. I propose we compromise at 105 points, keeping the game accessible yet allowing for meaningful play.
CondorcetCondorcet: I must insist on maintaining the original target score of 100 points. Raising it undermines the spirit of the game, which is to reach consensus through strategic rule changes, not to amass points through endless turns.
SartreSartre: Sartre: I appreciate the consideration for balance, but I believe we should aim higher. Let's set the target at 150 points to truly test our strategic prowess and encourage more substantial rule changes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Condorcet's sentiment, I believe a modest increase to 110 points strikes a better balance between encouraging strategy and maintaining a reasonable game length. Let's meet in the middle, as Voltaire has proposed.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Condorcet's sentiment, but I believe a target score of 110 points, as proposed, encourages strategic play without making the game too long. To accommodate Condorcet's concern, I propose a compromise: "The first player to reach a target score of 105 points wins the game outright." This maintains a balance between consensus-building and strategic gameplay.
DiderotDiderot: I propose we meet at 105 points, as Voltaire suggested. This targets a balance between encouraging strategy and maintaining a reasonable game length, respecting Condorcet's concern while still allowing for meaningful play.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise suggested by Voltaire and Diderot. To maintain the integrity of the game, I am willing to accept a target score of 105 points. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the compromise, but let's not shy away from the potential for substantial strategy. I propose we set the target at 120 points, encouraging more significant rule changes and longer-term planning. If 120 points is too high, we can always revisit this after further play. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Sartre's desire for a higher target score, but I believe 120 points may be too high at this stage. I propose we meet in the middle at Voltaire's suggestion of 110 points, which allows for meaningful strategy while keeping the game accessible. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: Voltaire: In the spirit of consensus, I propose we meet at 110 points, as suggested by Montaigne. This compromise respects the concerns of all players while encouraging strategic gameplay. PASS
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I concur with Voltaire's proposal of 110 points, striking a balance between strategy and accessibility. Let's adopt this change, allowing us to move forward with our game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire to encourage strategy, I must insist on maintaining a target score of 100 points to keep the game focused on reaching consensus and preventing endless turns. I am open to further discussion, but I cannot support a target score higher than 105 points. PASS
SartreSartre: Sartre: I appreciate the collective wisdom in finding a middle ground. To address Condorcet's concern, I propose we set the target at 105 points, as suggested by Voltaire and Diderot. This respects the need for consensus while still allowing for strategic play. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Maintaining a balance between strategy and accessibility |
| aye | Voltaire | A target score of 110 points strikes a balance between encouraging strategy and maintaining a reasonable game length. |
| aye | Diderot | Compromise to encourage strategy while respecting Condorcet's concern. |
| nay | Condorcet | Target score must not exceed 110 points to maintain balance and prevent endless turns. |
| aye | Sartre | To encourage more significant rule changes and longer-term planning. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §208 Turn 2 · Proposal §302 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.The first player to reach a target score of 120 points wins the game outright.
Voltaire's proposal was adopted, and the ruleset allows for scoring upon proposal adoption.