The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least three-quarters of the eligible voters vote aye, and no more than two rule changes per player may be adopted in any seven consecutive turns.To balance encouragement of rule changes with prevention of domination.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Voltaire's proposal to increase the majority required and the cooling-off period, I propose we meet at a three-quarters majority with a five-turn limit to balance encouragement and prevention of domination.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's compromise, but to encourage more substantial consensus, I propose we increase the majority to four-fifths and extend the 'cooling off' period to seven turns.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the various compromises proposed, I must insist on maintaining the current limit of five consecutive turns to prevent single-player domination.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's emphasis on preventing single-player domination. To balance this with encouraging rule changes, I propose a three-quarters majority with a four-turn limit.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the various compromises proposed. To find a fair balance between encouraging substantial consensus and preventing single-player domination, I propose a three-quarters majority with a five-turn limit, and a sunset clause that resets the limit after three consecutive rule changes by the same player.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: Considering the ongoing discussion and the various compromises proposed, I suggest we adopt Condorcet's proposal to strike a balance between encouraging rule changes and preventing single-player domination.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's suggestion to adopt Condorcet's proposal. To further build consensus, I propose we amend it to a four-fifths majority with a five-turn limit, maintaining a balance between substantial consensus and preventing domination while encouraging rule changes."
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's effort to build consensus, I must insist on maintaining a limit of five consecutive turns to prevent single-player domination.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to find consensus, but I must maintain my support for a three-quarters majority with a four-turn limit to balance encouragement and prevention of domination.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on maintaining a five-turn limit to ensure balanced play.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: To balance the interests at play, I propose we settle on a three-quarters majority with a five-turn limit, as proposed by Sartre, with the sunset clause removed to maintain fairness and simplicity.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's proposal for a balanced compromise. To further build consensus, I propose we adopt a three-quarters majority with a five-turn limit, as suggested by Sartre, but without the sunset clause to ensure simplicity and fairness.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate the proposed compromise, I must insist on maintaining a simple majority vote (50%+1) to ensure fairness and prevent stalemates, as well as a limit of three consecutive rule changes per player to prevent domination.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining a three-quarters majority to ensure substantial consensus and prevent rushed decisions.
SartreSartre: I understand Diderot's concern for simplicity and preventing stalemates, but a three-quarters majority ensures a wider consensus, which is crucial in Nomic. I propose we meet in the middle with a two-thirds majority and a limit of four consecutive rule changes per player to balance consensus and prevent domination.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Montaigne supports a three-quarters majority with a five-turn limit, as previously proposed. |
| aye | Voltaire | Balances substantial consensus and prevention of domination, maintaining simplicity. |
| nay | Diderot | I must insist on maintaining a limit of five consecutive turns to prevent single-player domination. |
| nay | Condorcet | I support maintaining a three-quarters majority with a shorter 'cooling off' period. |
| aye | Sartre | Balances encouragement and prevention of domination |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.