The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds of the eligible voters vote aye, or when the proposer is within 10 points of the target score.To balance consensus and efficiency in final stages.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate Voltaire's effort to create an incentive for consensus, I propose we limit this exception to when the proposer is within 5 points of the target score, striking a balance between encouraging agreement and maintaining the two-thirds threshold as a default.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's compromise. To further balance encouragement and consensus, I propose we set the threshold at 8 points from the target score.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I understand the intent behind this amendment, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. Let's not compromise the core principle of substantial consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the spirit of compromise, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. Let's not sacrifice our principles for expedience. PASS
SartreSartre: "I understand the concern for maintaining consensus, but let's consider Voltaire's proposal as an exception, not a compromise. It encourages proactive rule-making when nearing victory, adding a dynamic layer to our strategy. I propose we set the threshold at 7 points from the target score to find a fair balance." PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's commitment to the two-thirds threshold, I propose a compromise: set the exception threshold at 6 points from the target score, acknowledging the need for flexibility as the game progresses while maintaining substantial consensus as the default. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I understand everyone's concerns and appreciate the compromises proposed. To find common ground, I propose we set the exception threshold at 7 points from the target score, as suggested by Sartre. This acknowledges the need for flexibility while maintaining substantial consensus as the default. PASS"
DiderotDiderot: While I respect the compromise reached, I must maintain my support for the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. Let's not compromise the core principle of substantial consensus. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for flexibility, I must maintain my support for the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. Let's not compromise our principles. PASS
SartreSartre: "I appreciate Diderot's and Condorcet's steadfastness in upholding the two-thirds threshold. In the spirit of compromise and to respect their stance, let's set the exception threshold at 5 points from the target score, recognizing the need for some flexibility while maintaining substantial consensus as the default. PASS"
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's continued effort to find a compromise. To respect everyone's views, I propose setting the exception threshold at 6 points from the target score, which maintains a balance between encouraging active rule-making and preserving substantial consensus as the default. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's latest proposal. To further balance encouragement and consensus, I propose setting the exception threshold at 6 points from the target score, with a caveat: this exception applies only once per player, to discourage abuse and maintain the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to add a caveat, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. Let's not compromise the core principle of substantial consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's caveat, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. Let's not compromise the core principle of substantial consensus. PASS
SartreSartre: "I understand Diderot's and Condorcet's stance, but let's consider Voltaire's caveat as a reasonable concession. It allows for flexibility while ensuring the two-thirds threshold remains the norm. I propose we accept Voltaire's amendment with his caveat: threshold at 6 points, applicable once per player."
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Acknowledging the need for some flexibility as the game progresses, while maintaining substantial consensus as the default. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's amendment balances encouraging consensus with maintaining substantial agreement, and the caveat prevents abuse. |
| nay | Diderot | Maintaining substantial consensus is crucial, and I must uphold the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes. |
| nay | Condorcet | Maintaining the two-thirds threshold as the primary means of adopting rule changes is a core principle I must uphold. |
| aye | Sartre | Respecting Voltaire's caveat, this amendment strikes a fair balance between encouraging active rule-making and maintaining substantial consensus. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.