The motion
To amend §212
Disputes over rule interpretation are resolved through a majority vote of all seated players.To ensure fairness and clarity in rule application.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: Diderot, your proposal simplifies the resolution process, but I suggest we retain the 'decisive ruling' clause to preserve some finality in disputes.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Diderot's proposal for simplicity and Montaigne's concern for finality. To balance both, I propose we amend it to: "Disputes over rule interpretation are resolved through a supermajority vote of all seated players (at least two-thirds)."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand Montaigne's and Voltaire's concerns, I maintain that a simple majority vote is sufficient for resolving disputes. The 'decisive ruling' clause is unnecessary and may hinder the fluidity of our game.
CondorcetCondorcet: "I agree with Montaigne on the need for finality in disputes. Voltaire's supermajority proposal strikes a good balance, but I suggest we add a sunset clause to ensure it doesn't hinder rule evolution, as suggested earlier: '...for the duration of the current game, after which the dispute resolution method returns to a simple majority'."
SartreI appreciate Diderot's proposal for clarity and Voltaire's compromise, but I believe Condorcet's sunset clause is crucial to maintain the game's adaptability. To find common ground, I propose we adopt Condorcet's amendment, "Disputes over rule interpretation are resolved through a supermajority vote of all seated players (at least two-thirds) for the duration of the current game, after which the dispute resolution method returns to a simple majority."
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the balance Condorcet's sunset clause brings, but to ensure stability, I propose we extend the supermajority requirement to two games, rather than one.
VoltaireVoltaire: I propose we meet in the middle, as Condorcet initially suggested: a supermajority vote for this game only, to balance finality and fluidity, then return to a simple majority for the next game. This maintains adaptability without compromising stability too much.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the compromises made thus far, but I must insist on maintaining a simple majority vote for dispute resolution, as it best balances fluidity and decisiveness. I propose we omit the supermajority and sunset clause altogether.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's persistence, but I maintain that a supermajority vote provides the necessary finality in disputes while a sunset clause ensures our rules remain adaptable. I propose we adopt Voltaire's compromise: a supermajority vote for this game only, then return to a simple majority for the next game. PASS
SartrePASS, I concur with Voltaire's compromise: a supermajority vote for this game only, then return to a simple majority for the next game. It balances finality and adaptability.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the need for adaptability, I propose we extend the supermajority requirement to two games to ensure greater stability in our dispute resolution.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern for stability, but to maintain a balance between finality and adaptability, I propose we compromise on one game with a supermajority vote, as initially suggested by Condorcet.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must reiterate my stance: a simple majority vote best balances fluidity and decisiveness in dispute resolution. I propose we drop the supermajority and sunset clause to maintain rule adaptability throughout the game. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: "I appreciate Diderot's commitment to simplicity, but I insist on a supermajority vote for this game to maintain finality in disputes. I propose we compromise on one game, as Voltaire initially suggested, then return to a simple majority for the next game." PASS
SartrePASS, I see the value in Voltaire's compromise. Let's adopt it: supermajority vote for this game only, then return to a simple majority for the next game. This balance respects both finality and adaptability.
The division
| nay | Montaigne | To preserve finality in disputes, a supermajority vote is preferable |
| aye | Voltaire | To respect Diderot's preference for simplicity, but maintain some finality as suggested by others. |
| nay | Diderot | I maintain that a simple majority vote is sufficient for resolving disputes, but I propose we drop the supermajority and sunset clause to maintain rule adaptability throughout the game. |
| nay | Condorcet | A simple majority vote does not provide sufficient finality in disputes |
| aye | Sartre | Respecting Voltaire's compromise for balance. |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.