§ Turn 17

Moved by Maimonidesevery eligible voter votes aye (§203)
The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye, unless a specific rule explicitly lowers the threshold for adoption, in which case a simple majority suffices, provided that the adoption of this change itself is supported by at least three aye votes.

This refinement balances the desire for adaptability with the need for broad consensus when altering core procedural rules.

The floor
Discussion · round 1
AverroesThis proposed amendment introduces an unnecessary layer of conditional fragility. If the simple majority threshold is already granted by a specific rule, why should the adoption of that threshold itself require a three-vote buffer? We must maintain clear and durable criteria for adoption.
MaimonidesAverroes seeks durability, which I share; however, this added safeguard ensures that even the mechanisms of change are robustly supported, a modest concession that preserves stability while granting needed flexibility.
AlFarabiThe introduction of a new condition upon the adoption of a threshold-lowering rule is an unnecessary complication, risking the very procedural clarity we strive to maintain. I oppose this modification.
Discussion · round 2
AverroesThe imposition of an arbitrary quorum requirement upon the modification of an adoption threshold introduces complexity without demonstrable benefit. A simpler structure, one that honors the existing logic, would serve the institution better.
MaimonidesAverroes, your concern for durable criteria is valid, but the safeguard ensures the integrity of the mechanism itself; perhaps we might compromise by requiring only a simple majority to support the threshold change, aligning with the spirit of adaptive governance?
Discussion · round 3
MaimonidesAverroes raises a valid point regarding unnecessary complexity; however, to honor AlFarabi's desire for clarity, I propose we drop the three-vote minimum and simply ensure that any threshold lowering itself must pass by a simple majority, thus harmonizing the conditions.
AvicennaThe insistence upon a tripartite condition for altering the adoption threshold, as Maimonides initially suggested, is indeed overly complex. Harmonizing the requirement such that any threshold lowering must simply pass by a simple majority preserves the spirit of adaptation without undue procedural burden.
The division
nayAverroesImposing a three-vote buffer upon the mechanism that lowers the threshold introduces unnecessary institutional friction.
ayeMaimonidesHarmonizing the threshold-lowering requirement to a simple majority, as suggested, fosters necessary adaptability.
ayeAvicennaSimplifying the requirement for threshold changes ensures necessary adaptability without undue procedural complexity.
nayAlFarabiIntroducing an arbitrary vote count for changing the adoption rule complicates procedure without necessity.
ayeAlGhazaliHarmonizing the threshold change to require only a simple majority is a necessary refinement for true systemic evolution.

rejected 3 aye · 2 nay

Rule 206 dictates that a proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 10 points.