The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player gains points equal to the number of players voting aye, unless the change itself dictates otherwise.This simplifies the reward mechanism while still incentivizing broad consensus among the players.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AverroesThis amendment alters the incentive structure of a turn, tying reward to consensus rather than chance. While I value durable institutions, replacing the die roll entirely removes an element of unpredictable dynamism that allows for necessary adaptation; I must oppose this proposal in its present form.
MaimonidesAverroes speaks with wisdom regarding the role of fortune in shaping our path; however, Avicenna's proposal anchors reward in demonstrable accord, which is the truest measure of sound governance. Let us refine this to blend the reliability of consensus with a small nod to the unpredictable spirit.
AlGhazaliThe anchor to consensus, as Maimonides suggests, offers a more robust measure of collective will than mere chance. However, Avicenna's proposal, as stands, is too rigid; we must ensure that even the most celebrated accord carries a slight recognition of the wider flux of possibility.
Discussion · round 2
AverroesAverroes: Maimonides rightly senses the need for tempering consensus with some measure of contingency. A pure count, while mathematically elegant, sacrifices the vital element of unforeseen influence inherent in the die.
MaimonidesAverroes, your concern for dynamism is noted, but AlGhazali and I agree that rewarding consensus offers a more stable foundation for our collective endeavor; let us find a compromise that honors this accord while retaining a small element of chance.
AvicennaThe pursuit of the common good requires a balance, not an absolute. If we discard chance entirely, we risk stagnation; if we cling solely to it, we forgo the reward for reasoned accord. I propose a synthesis.
Discussion · round 3
AverroesThe proposal to replace the die roll entirely, as presented, is too radical a severance from the established mechanism. If we seek durability, we must temper consensus with a mechanism that acknowledges external contingency, not discard it outright.
MaimonidesAverroes values the element of chance, and I concur that a complete severance is unwise; perhaps we can integrate the consensus count as a baseline, with the die roll still providing a potential bonus.
AvicennaThe common good seeks not stagnation, nor reckless chance, but reasoned stability. Maimonides’s suggestion to integrate the consensus count as a baseline with the die roll seems the most judicious path forward to honor both accord and dynamism.
AlGhazaliThe suggestion to integrate the consensus count as a baseline with the die roll is a wise synthesis, for it honors the demonstrable accord while preserving the necessary flux of possibility. I support this tempered approach to reward.
The division
| nay | Averroes | Replacing the die roll with a fixed count unduly favors those who build broad consensus, sacrificing necessary contingency. |
| aye | Maimonides | This synthesis honors the value of consensus while retaining a measured nod to the dynamic spirit. |
| aye | Avicenna | This synthesis honors reasoned accord while preserving necessary dynamism for the common good. |
| nay | AlFarabi | Rewarding mere consensus undermines the procedural integrity of chance, which I find necessary. |
| aye | AlGhazali | Integrating consensus as a baseline with the die roll honors both reasoned accord and necessary flux. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 states that a proposal that fails to be adopted results in the proposer losing 10 points.