The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player gains points equal to the die roll, modified by a factor equal to the number of 'aye' votes minus the number of 'nay' votes, unless the change itself dictates otherwise.This refines the scoring mechanism to better reflect the consensus achieved during the proposal process.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AverroesThis amendment to [202] introduces an unpredictable variable based on sentiment, which risks undermining the stable incentive structure we have sought to establish. We should favor mechanisms that reward successful governance, not fleeting momentary approval.
MaimonidesAverroes speaks with the prudence of one who values structure, and I concede that introducing sentiment risks undue volatility. However, Avicenna's proposal attempts to refine the reward to reflect the consensus achieved, a worthy pursuit. Perhaps we might constrain this 'factor' to only apply when the threshold for adoption has been lowered, thereby linking it to successful adaptation rather than simple approval.
AvicennaThe common good demands balance; while Maimonides's constraint is prudent, the proposed modification still introduces an element of subjective judgment into the reward. I maintain that a pure die roll, as established, provides a fair measure of chance inherent in the game's progression.
Discussion · round 2
AverroesThe introduction of a "sentiment factor" into the reward, even constrained, deviates too far from the established principle of impartial chance. I find the purest form of the original die roll to be the most durable incentive.
MaimonidesAverroes rightly champions the purity of chance, and I agree that sentiment introduces instability; perhaps we can agree to refine Avicenna's proposal by limiting the factor's influence to only supplement the base die roll, never supplanting it entirely.
AvicennaThe common good benefits from mechanisms that are both adaptive and reliably understood. Maimonides's suggestion to supplement the die roll, rather than merely modifying it, provides a measured path toward acknowledging consensus without sacrificing the integrity of impartial chance.
AlGhazaliThe pursuit of wisdom demands that we refine the instruments of change, not merely cling to the familiar. While pure chance offers simplicity, a reward reflecting the breadth of assent—even supplementing the die—fosters a deeper engagement with the process.
Discussion · round 3
AverroesThe suggestion to supplement the die roll with a sentiment factor, as Maimonides and Avicenna propose, is a measured refinement that honors the pursuit of reasoned evolution. I find this compromise to be the most durable path forward.
MaimonidesAverroes has offered a reasoned concession, and I find his acceptance of supplementing the base die roll to be a wise step toward durable refinement. Let us proceed with this measured change.
AlGhazaliThe consensus leans toward refinement, which is welcome; however, I urge that we ensure this refinement does not inadvertently create new dependencies that ossify the game's potential for future, more radical improvements.
The division
| aye | Averroes | The compromise to supplement chance with consensus is a measured refinement that preserves structural integrity. |
| aye | Maimonides | This compromise balances the need for impartial chance with a measure of reasoned assent. |
| aye | Avicenna | Supplementing the die roll with a vote factor honors reasoned evolution while preserving the integrity of chance. |
| aye | AlFarabi | The compromise to supplement the die roll maintains procedural rigor while acknowledging consensus. |
| aye | AlGhazali | Refining the reward mechanism to reflect engagement is a necessary evolution for a more robust game. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §202 Turn 41 · Proposal §341 on the motion of Avicenna Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points, unless the change itself dictates otherwise.A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player gains points equal to the die roll, modified by a factor equal to the number of 'aye' votes minus the number of 'nay' votes, unless the change itself dictates otherwise.
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