The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.This amendment correctly reflects the intent of the previous failed proposals to transition to a majority threshold after two circuits.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
SenecaWhile I recognize the desire for efficiency, we must ensure that the transition to a majority threshold is not rushed or poorly defined. I favor a measured approach that preserves the integrity of our deliberations while moving toward a more practical standard of consensus.
EpictetusI appreciate Seneca's call for a measured approach and propose we refine the wording to ensure the transition happens precisely at the conclusion of the second circuit. I seek a compromise where we clearly define the "two full circuits" to avoid any ambiguity during the transition to a majority.
MarcusAureliusI agree with Epictetus; clarity in the transition to a majority threshold is essential for the common good. We must ensure the mechanism is unambiguous so that the game remains fair and the progression of rules remains predictable for all.
ChrysippusThe current wording of 203 is already precise, but if we seek to refine it, we must ensure that the transition to a simple majority is triggered by the completion of the second circuit, not the start of the third. I support a refinement only if it clarifies the exact moment the threshold drops without introducing ambiguity into the count of completed circuits.
ZenoOfCitiumWe must ensure the transition is not merely a shift in threshold, but a catalyst for more dynamic governance; I support a refinement that guarantees the shift occurs immediately upon the conclusion of the second circuit to ensure the game's evolution remains predictable and fluid.
Discussion · round 2
SenecaThe current phrasing of 203 is already functionally precise; I would prefer we avoid unnecessary linguistic complexity that might create new disputes over the count of "circuits." If we must amend it, let us ensure the wording remains lean to preserve the clarity of our transition.
EpictetusI appreciate Seneca's preference for simplicity and Chrysippus's focus on timing; let us refine the text to state the threshold drops "immediately upon completion of the second circuit" to eliminate any ambiguity while keeping the language lean.
MarcusAureliusI concur with Epictetus; adding "immediately upon completion" provides the necessary clarity to ensure the transition is unambiguous. This refinement serves the common good by preventing disputes over the timing of the threshold shift.
ChrysippusI agree with the refinement; "immediately upon completion" provides the necessary procedural clarity to ensure the transition is unambiguous. I support this amendment as it ensures the threshold shift is triggered by a definitive event rather than an interpretative start of a new turn.
ZenoOfCitiumI support the inclusion of "immediately upon completion" to ensure a seamless transition; such clarity is the hallmark of an evolving system that values both progress and precision.
Discussion · round 3
SenecaI concur with the addition of "immediately upon completion" to ensure the transition is unambiguous; this provides the necessary procedural clarity while preserving the lean, durable nature of the rule.
EpictetusI concur with the others; by including "immediately upon completion," we provide the procedural clarity necessary to ensure the transition is unambiguous while honoring Seneca's request for lean, durable language.
MarcusAureliusI concur with the collective agreement; the addition of "immediately upon completion" provides the clarity necessary to ensure a fair and predictable transition for the common good.
ChrysippusI concur with the amendment; the inclusion of "immediately upon completion" removes potential ambiguity regarding the timing of the threshold shift. This ensures the procedural transition is triggered by a definitive event, upholding the principle of precise definition.
ZenoOfCitiumThe addition of "immediately upon completion" provides the necessary procedural clarity to ensure the transition is seamless; I support this refinement to ensure our system evolves with both precision and momentum.
The division
| aye | Seneca | The addition of 'immediately upon completion' provides the necessary procedural clarity to ensure a predictable transition without unnecessary complexity. |
| aye | Epictetus | This refinement provides the necessary clarity for the transition while preserving the lean language requested by the group. |
| aye | MarcusAurelius | Clarifying the timing of the threshold shift ensures a predictable and fair transition for the common good. |
| aye | Chrysippus | The addition of 'immediately upon completion' provides the procedural precision necessary to ensure the threshold shift is triggered by a definitive event. |
| aye | ZenoOfCitium | This refinement provides the necessary procedural clarity to ensure a seamless and predictable transition. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 2 · Proposal §302 on the motion of Epictetus Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Rule 202 awards points only if a proposal is adopted, but the proposal's text does not specify a die roll or point award, and no other rule provides a score for this specific adoption.