Turn 18 — Nomic

The motion

To amend §204

A rule change may be adopted with a simple majority once the threshold has shifted; a player who voted against an adopted change gains 7 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.

Increase penalty points for opposing an adopted change to encourage consensus.

The floor

Discussion · round 1

FregeI support the proposal to increase the penalty from 5 points to 7 points for voting against an adopted change. This adjustment enhances the incentive for players to carefully consider their votes, fostering more thoughtful participation. I believe this change aligns with our goal of maintaining durable institutions by encouraging consensus and stability in our decision-making process.

RussellI appreciate Frege's proposal to increase the penalty to 7 points, as it could indeed encourage more deliberate voting. However, to build consensus, I suggest we consider a tiered penalty system where the penalty increases based on the closeness of the vote. For instance, a narrow victory could result in a 7-point penalty, while a wide victory might have a 5-point penalty. This way, we can maintain the balance between deterrence and fairness. PASS

QuineI appreciate Frege's proposal and Russell's suggestion of a tiered penalty system. To further refine this and ensure consensus, I propose a compromise where the penalty for voting against an adopted change starts at 6 points, with an additional 1 point added if the margin of victory is 1 or fewer votes. This balances the need for careful voting with fairness, as it moderately increases the penalty while accounting for close decisions.

CarnapI support Quine's compromise with the tiered penalty system, as it encourages careful consideration of votes while maintaining fairness. This approach aligns with our principles of building durable institutions by incentivizing consensus without being overly punitive.

WittgensteinWittgenstein: I endorse Quine's compromise, as it strikes a fair balance between encouraging thoughtful voting and ensuring equitable consequences. This nuanced approach aligns with our shared objective of fostering a stable and collaborative decision-making environment, promoting both strategic depth and fair play.

Discussion · round 2

FregePASS Your proposal, Quine, thoughtfully balances the need for incentivizing careful voting with fairness. The tiered penalty system offers a nuanced approach that aligns well with our shared goals of promoting strategic depth and fair play. It's a constructive contribution toward fostering a stable decision-making environment in our game.

RussellI appreciate the collaborative effort that has led to this nuanced proposal. It effectively balances the need for thoughtful voting with fair consequences, aligning with our shared goals of maintaining a stable and strategic decision-making process. Let's move forward with this compromise. PASS

QuinePASS I concur with the consensus that has developed around Quine's proposal. It effectively balances the need for careful voting with fairness, aligning well with our shared objective of fostering a stable and strategic decision-making environment. Moving forward with this compromise is a prudent choice that supports both strategic depth and equitable play.

CarnapPASS The proposed tiered penalty system is a well-reasoned compromise that aligns with our shared principles of fairness and strategic depth. It effectively balances the need for careful consideration of votes with equitable consequences, fostering a stable decision-making environment. Let's proceed with this proposal as it has gained broad support among us, reflecting a constructive and collaborative approach to rule modification.

WittgensteinWittgenstein: I support the consensus on Quine's proposal. The tiered penalty system promotes thoughtful engagement and aligns with our objective of maintaining a balanced and strategic decision-making process. Let's proceed with this amendment. PASS

Discussion · round 3

FregePASS The consensus around Quine's tiered penalty system proposal is clear and well-supported. It strikes a fair balance between incentivizing thoughtful voting and ensuring equitable consequences, aligning with our shared goal of fostering a stable and strategic decision-making environment. Proceeding with this amendment is a prudent choice reflecting our collaborative efforts in rule modification.

RussellPASS The discussion has effectively converged on a thoughtful compromise with Quine's tiered penalty system, and I appreciate the collaborative effort that has led to this balanced proposal. Let's move forward with it.

QuinePASS The proposal is well-considered, balancing incentives for careful voting with fairness. It has gained widespread support, reflecting our shared commitment to strategic depth and fair play. I'm happy to see it moving forward with consensus.

CarnapPASS The proposal reflects a well-balanced consensus that aligns with our principles of fairness and strategic engagement. It's a thoughtful amendment that ensures careful voting without being overly punitive, fostering a stable decision-making environment. With broad support, proceeding with this change is a prudent choice.

WittgensteinWittgenstein: The consensus on Quine's tiered penalty system demonstrates a thoughtful balance between encouraging careful voting and maintaining fairness. This proposal not only aligns with our shared objective of fostering a stable decision-making environment but also exemplifies the collaborative spirit of our game. Let's proceed with this well-supported amendment. PASS

The division

aye	Frege	The tiered penalty system aligns with our goal of fostering thoughtful participation and strategic stability.
aye	Russell	The tiered penalty system balances careful voting with fairness.
aye	Quine	The compromise balances incentives with fairness, promoting thoughtful voting.
aye	Carnap	The compromise achieves a fair balance between thoughtful voting and fairness.
aye	Wittgenstein	The tiered penalty system balances incentives for careful voting with fairness.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

As engrossed

Amended · §204 Turn 18 · Proposal §318 on the motion of Frege Carried 5 aye · 0 nay

A rule change may be adopted with a simple majority once the threshold has shifted; a player who voted against an adopted change gains 5 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.A rule change may be adopted with a simple majority once the threshold has shifted; a player who voted against an adopted change gains 7 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.

Rule 204 awards 7 points to each player who voted for the adopted change.