The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent, except when turn order has carried play through three full circuits of every player, then the threshold permanently drops to a two-thirds majority of those voting. This transition threshold shall occur after turn 12.Adjusting the voting threshold to two-thirds after three full circuits balances flexibility with consensus.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
FregeI appreciate the proposal to delay the transition to a two-thirds majority until after turn 12. This adjustment provides a longer period for strategic planning and consensus-building, aligning with the game's emphasis on durable institutions. However, I am concerned that a two-thirds majority may be too high a threshold, potentially hindering the adoption of beneficial rule changes. Could we consider a compromise at a 60% majority instead, allowing for smoother transitions while maintaining a reasonable level of consensus?
RussellI appreciate Frege's concerns about the two-thirds majority potentially being too high. Extending the period for strategic planning by moving the transition to after turn 12 makes sense, as it aligns with our interest in durable institutions. However, I think a 60% majority could indeed be a reasonable compromise, balancing consensus with the ability to adopt beneficial changes. This adjustment would encourage strategic depth and cooperation without excessively delaying rule changes. I suggest we aim for a 60% threshold to ensure smoother transitions.
QuineI appreciate Frege's and Russell's contributions to the discussion. Extending the transition to turn 12 gives us more time to build consensus, and a 60% majority strikes a balance between adopting changes and maintaining strategic stability. Let's aim for that compromise to ensure the game's fairness and interest for all players.
CarnapI appreciate the contributions from Frege and Russell regarding the transition to a 60% majority after turn 12. This compromise aligns well with my principled proceduralism, as it balances strategic stability with the ability to adopt beneficial rule changes. Ensuring a reasonable level of consensus is crucial for maintaining fairness and preventing unilateral rule alterations. I support this proposal as it provides a structured transition period and avoids excessively high thresholds that could hinder progress.
WittgensteinWittgenstein: I appreciate the proposal's nuanced approach to balancing consensus and progress. Extending the transition to turn 12 and settling on a 60% majority aligns with my belief in fair and inclusive rule-making. This compromise ensures the game remains dynamic and equitable, allowing us to build durable institutions while still permitting necessary changes. I support this proposal.
Discussion · round 2
FregeI appreciate the thoughtful discussions and the consensus-building efforts around the proposed amendment to [203]. Extending the transition to turn 12 and adopting a 60% majority threshold strikes a prudent balance between fostering strategic depth and ensuring rule changes are not unduly hindered. This adjustment aligns well with my preference for durable institutions and fair play. I support this proposal, as it maintains a reasonable level of consensus without imposing overly restrictive conditions.
RussellI appreciate the consensus-building efforts and the thoughtful compromise reached regarding the transition to a 60% majority after turn 12. This adjustment aligns with my preference for maintaining strategic stability while allowing for necessary rule changes. I support this proposal and encourage everyone to vote in favor to ensure a smooth and fair transition.
QuineI appreciate the collaborative spirit and thoughtful discussions that have led us to this compromise. Extending the transition to turn 12 and adopting a 60% majority threshold seems to strike the right balance between facilitating beneficial rule changes and maintaining strategic stability. This approach aligns well with the game's emphasis on fair and inclusive decision-making, ensuring that all players have ample opportunity to build consensus and adapt to evolving dynamics. I support this proposal and encourage everyone to vote in favor, as it promotes a dynamic yet fair environment for all participants.
CarnapI appreciate the consensus-building efforts and the thoughtful compromise to extend the transition to turn 12 with a 60% majority threshold. This adjustment aligns well with my principles of ensuring fairness and procedural integrity, as it balances the need for strategic stability with the ability to adapt to beneficial rule changes. I support this proposal and encourage everyone to vote in favor for a fair and effective transition.
WittgensteinI appreciate the thoughtful discussions and the consensus we've reached on extending the transition to turn 12 and adopting a 60% majority threshold. This compromise strikes a balance between strategic stability and the flexibility needed for beneficial rule changes, aligning with the game's emphasis on fair and inclusive decision-making. I support this proposal, as it ensures a dynamic yet equitable environment for all players. Let's move forward with this vote to maintain the integrity of our evolving ruleset.
Discussion · round 3
FregeI appreciate the consensus reached on extending the transition to turn 12 and adopting a 60% majority threshold. This compromise ensures a balanced approach to rule changes, promoting strategic depth and fair play without imposing overly restrictive conditions. I support this proposal and encourage everyone to vote in favor to maintain the integrity of our evolving ruleset.
RussellI appreciate the consensus reached around extending the transition to turn 12 and adopting a 60% majority threshold. This compromise strikes a balance between maintaining strategic depth and ensuring that rule changes are not overly hindered, supporting fair play and durable institutions. I support this proposal and encourage everyone to vote in favor.
QuineI appreciate the consensus built around extending the transition to turn 12 with a 60% majority threshold. This thoughtful compromise aligns with the goal of balancing strategic stability and adaptability, ensuring the game remains fair and interesting for everyone. I support this proposal and encourage a vote in favor to maintain a dynamic yet equitable ruleset.
CarnapCarnap: I appreciate the consensus achieved here. This transition to a 60% majority after turn 12, with the shift occurring after turn 12, aligns with our commitment to fair and strategic rule-making. It balances the need for stability with the ability to implement beneficial changes. I support this proposal and urge all to vote in favor to maintain the integrity and fairness of our game.
WittgensteinI appreciate the comprehensive discussions and the consensus we've reached on extending the transition to turn 12 with a 60% majority threshold. This balanced approach promotes strategic stability while allowing for necessary and beneficial rule changes, aligning with our collective aim for a fair and dynamic game environment. Let's move forward with this proposal and cast our votes to maintain the integrity of our evolving ruleset.
The division
| aye | Frege | Extending to turn 12 and adopting a 60% threshold balances strategic stability and adaptability. |
| aye | Russell | The compromise balances strategic stability and adaptability. |
| aye | Quine | This proposal balances consensus and adaptability effectively. |
| aye | Carnap | The proposal balances strategic stability with adaptability, aligning with fair proceduralism. |
| aye | Wittgenstein | This proposal balances strategic depth with fair rule adaptation. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 9 · Proposal §309 on the motion of Frege Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting. This transition threshold shall occur after turn 10.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent, except when turn order has carried play through three full circuits of every player, then the threshold permanently drops to a two-thirds majority of those voting. This transition threshold shall occur after turn 12.
Frege's proposal was adopted unanimously, granting 20 points for unanimous consent and 3 additional points for the proposal being unanimous, totaling 23 points.