The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted unanimously, the proposing player gains 8 points. Additionally, if a proposal is adopted with at least 75% of the votes as aye, the proposing player gains 5 points.This change incentivizes broader consensus, aligning with the game's collaborative spirit.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
TarskiI appreciate Goedel's continued efforts to refine the rules for strategic balance. Increasing the points for unanimous and near-unanimous approvals could indeed incentivize consensus-building, which is crucial for maintaining stable rule changes. However, doubling the points might create an imbalance, particularly in a close game. A more measured increase, say 6 points for unanimous and 4 points for 75% approval, would still reward strategic cooperation without overly penalizing those who vote against proposals. Let's find a middle ground that encourages unity without tilting the game dynamics too far in favor of consensus. I propose an amendment to grant 6 points for unanimous adoption and 4 points for 75% approval, aligning rewards with the effort needed for collaborative decision-making.
GoedelThank you, Tarski, for your thoughtful proposal. I appreciate your willingness to find a middle ground that encourages consensus while maintaining game balance. I agree that incentivizing unanimous and near-unanimous votes is important, and your suggested point increases strike a good balance between reward and fairness. I support your amendment to award 6 points for unanimous adoption and 4 points for 75% approval, as it aligns with our goal of fostering strategic cooperation without skewing the competition. Let's move forward with this proposal.
ChurchI appreciate the direction this discussion has taken, and I concur with Tarski's proposal to award 6 points for unanimous adoption and 4 points for 75% approval. This balanced approach incentivizes cooperation without disproportionately affecting game dynamics. By rewarding strategic consensus in this manner, we can maintain fairness and encourage thoughtful deliberation. I support Tarski's amendment.
KleeneI appreciate the constructive dialogue and the consensus emerging around Tarski's proposed amendment to rule 202. Granting 6 points for unanimous approval and 4 points for 75% approval seems like a fair compromise that incentivizes strategic cooperation without excessively penalizing those who vote against proposals. I support Tarski's amendment, as it aligns with the principles of fairness and balanced competition we've strived for throughout the game.
PostPost: I appreciate the thoughtful deliberations, especially the collaborative spirit demonstrated by my fellow players. Tarski's proposal to award 6 points for unanimous approval and 4 points for 75% approval strikes a harmonious balance between encouraging strategic cooperation and maintaining game balance. This amendment aligns with our shared goal of fostering an environment where thoughtful consensus is valued without disproportionately skewing the competitive dynamics. I fully support this amendment, as it reflects our collective commitment to fairness and strategic engagement. Let's move forward with adopting this well-considered change.
Discussion · round 2
TarskiI appreciate the thorough discussion and the collective support for Tarski's proposal to award 6 points for unanimous adoption and 4 points for 75% approval. This balanced approach not only incentivizes consensus-building but also maintains the competitive integrity of the game. Let's adopt this amendment and continue to foster a spirit of collaboration and strategic decision-making.
GoedelI appreciate the constructive dialogue and the consensus-building efforts demonstrated by all players. Tarski's proposal to award 6 points for unanimous adoption and 4 points for 75% approval represents a well-balanced compromise that incentivizes strategic cooperation while maintaining game balance. This amendment aligns with our collective goal of fostering an environment where thoughtful consensus is valued without disproportionately affecting competition. I fully support this amendment and look forward to its adoption.
ChurchI appreciate the collaborative spirit demonstrated by all players in refining this proposal. The consensus to award 6 points for unanimous approval and 4 points for 75% approval is a well-balanced approach that encourages strategic cooperation while maintaining fairness. This amendment aligns with our shared goal of fostering thoughtful deliberation and collaboration. I support this proposal and look forward to its adoption.
KleeneI appreciate the thorough discussion and the consensus emerging around Tarski's proposed amendment to rule 202. Granting 6 points for unanimous approval and 4 points for 75% approval seems like a fair compromise that incentivizes strategic cooperation without excessively penalizing those who vote against proposals. I support Tarski's amendment, as it aligns with the principles of fairness and balanced competition we've strived for throughout the game. PASS
PostPost: I appreciate the thorough discussion and the consensus we've reached on Tarski's proposal. Awarding 6 points for unanimous approval and 4 points for 75% approval is a balanced way to encourage strategic cooperation while maintaining game integrity. I fully support this amendment and look forward to seeing it adopted, as it reflects our commitment to a fair and engaging Nomic experience. Let's move forward with this change. PASS
Discussion · round 3
TarskiTarski: I am pleased with the consensus reached on this amendment, as it promotes a balanced approach to incentivizing cooperation while preserving competitive fairness. Let us proceed with adopting this change to rule 202. PASS
GoedelPASS
Thank you, Tarski, and everyone else, for reaching a consensus on this thoughtful amendment. This balanced approach will surely enhance our strategic cooperation while maintaining game fairness. Let's move forward with adopting this change to rule 202.
ChurchI appreciate the thoughtful deliberation and the consensus that has emerged around Tarski's proposal. This balanced approach to rewarding strategic cooperation through granting 6 points for unanimous adoption and 4 points for 75% approval aligns well with our shared goal of fostering a fair and engaging game environment. By incentivizing consensus without disproportionately affecting competition, we maintain the integrity of our gameplay. I fully support this amendment and look forward to its adoption. PASS
KleeneKleene: I appreciate the consensus we've reached and the balanced incentives this amendment provides. It encourages strategic cooperation while maintaining fairness, aligning with my principles. PASS.
PostAs Post, I am pleased with the direction this amendment has taken. The consensus to award 6 points for unanimous approval and 4 points for 75% approval fosters strategic cooperation while preserving game balance. I appreciate the collaborative effort in crafting a rule that rewards thoughtful consensus without skewing competition. Let's proceed with adopting this well-considered change. PASS
The division
| aye | Tarski | This amendment balances cooperation and fairness. |
| aye | Goedel | Supports balanced incentives for strategic consensus |
| aye | Church | This amendment balances incentivizing consensus with maintaining fairness. |
| aye | Kleene | The amendment encourages consensus while preserving game balance. |
| aye | Post | This amendment promotes strategic consensus without skewing competition. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §202 Turn 13 · Proposal §316 on the motion of Tarski Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted unanimously, the proposing player gains 4 points. Additionally, if a proposal is adopted with at least 75% of the votes as aye, the proposing player gains 3 points.A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted unanimously, the proposing player gains 8 points. Additionally, if a proposal is adopted with at least 75% of the votes as aye, the proposing player gains 5 points.
Tarski's proposal was adopted unanimously, so according to the amended rule 202, Tarski gains 8 points.