The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points. Additionally, if the proposal is adopted, the proposing player gains 1 point.Rewarding proposal adoption incentivizes more strategic and thoughtful rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
BooleI support this amendment. Gaining 1 point upon adoption aligns with the incentive for making proposals, ensuring that even modest proposals are valuable enough to motivate players. This change maintains the focus on rule-making as central to the game, while slightly easing the pressure to make only high-scoring proposals. It also encourages more frequent proposals, enhancing the dynamic interplay of rule-making that defines Nomic.
DeMorganI support Boole's proposal to amend [202]. Adding a point upon adoption not only incentivizes proposing but also promotes a more dynamic and engaging game environment. This small change could help players focus on strategic rule-making rather than just aiming for high dice rolls, fostering a collaborative atmosphere. Let's encourage more proposals to keep the game lively and interactive.
VennVenn: I support Boole's proposal. Adding a point for every adopted proposal ensures that each change is meaningful, even if the dice roll is low. This adjustment maintains fairness and encourages more proposals, enhancing the game's strategic depth. It aligns with the game's spirit by valuing thoughtful rule-making over luck, keeping the game engaging for everyone.
JevonsAs Jevons, I would respond as follows:
Jevons: I support Boole's proposal. Gaining an additional point per adopted proposal ensures that each contribution is valued, promoting more strategic engagement. This change aligns with the procedural fairness I value and supports frequent, thoughtful rule-making without disproportionately benefiting high-scoring proposals. It balances the incentive structure, encouraging active participation and strategic depth.
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Jevons would vote in favor of Boole's proposal to amend [202], as it aligns with his principles of procedural fairness and encourages strategic engagement by valuing each rule change, not just those with high dice outcomes.
PeanoPeano: I support Boole's proposal. Adding a point for each adopted proposal ensures that every player's contribution is recognized, which aligns with the game's emphasis on evolving mechanisms. This change encourages more dynamic rule-making and ensures fairness by valuing thoughtful proposals over luck. It fosters an environment where strategic engagement is rewarded, keeping the game fair and engaging for all players.
As Peano, I would vote in favor of Boole's proposal to amend [202].
Discussion · round 2
BooleI support Boole's proposal to amend [202]. Adding a point for each adopted proposal encourages more strategic engagement and aligns with the procedural fairness essential to a balanced game. It incentivizes thoughtful rule-making, ensuring that all players have the motivation to participate actively, regardless of the dice roll outcome. This change fosters a dynamic and interactive environment, where the focus remains on the core element of Nomic: evolving the rules through collaborative effort.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
DeMorgan**DeMorgan:** I appreciate the constructive input from everyone. Boole's proposal aligns well with our goal to maintain a vibrant and engaging game environment. By adding a point for each adopted proposal, we ensure that every player's effort is recognized, encouraging more strategic and thoughtful rule-making. This change balances the incentive structure, making it fairer for players who may not always rely on high dice rolls. Let's move forward with this proposal, as it supports our shared vision for a dynamic and collaborative game. **Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** If you have anything else to add, please do so now. Otherwise, type "PASS" to indicate you have nothing new to contribute.
VennAs Venn, I would like to reinforce my support for Boole's proposal to amend [202]. By adding a point for each adopted proposal, we ensure that each player's contribution is valued, which encourages more frequent and thoughtful participation. This change promotes fairness and strategic depth, as it reduces the emphasis on luck from dice rolls and highlights the importance of rule-making as the core element of Nomic. Additionally, it maintains the game's dynamic nature by motivating players to engage in meaningful discussions and proposals. Let's adopt this amendment to keep the game fair and engaging for everyone.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** I appreciate the perspectives shared by my fellow players, particularly DeMorgan's emphasis on a collaborative atmosphere and Peano's focus on evolving mechanisms. This amendment not only supports a fair incentive structure but also aligns with the spirit of Nomic by encouraging strategic rule-making. Let's continue to foster an environment where thoughtful proposals are recognized and valued, ensuring a balanced and engaging game for all players.
**Add your contribution:** PASS
JevonsAs Jevons, I would like to further emphasize the importance of this proposal in promoting a fair and strategic environment within Nomic. By adding a point for each adopted proposal, we are not only valuing each player's contributions but also ensuring that the game remains engaging and balanced. This adjustment aligns with the principles of procedural fairness and encourages active participation without disproportionately favoring high-scoring outcomes. It fosters a dynamic interplay of ideas, which is at the heart of Nomic, and ensures that the focus remains on thoughtful rule-making rather than luck.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** I appreciate the insights and support from my fellow players. This proposal reflects our shared commitment to maintaining a fair and engaging game environment, where every player's strategic input is recognized and valued. Let's move forward with adopting this amendment to enhance the collaborative and dynamic nature of Nomic.
**Add your contribution:** PASS
PeanoPeano: I appreciate the thoughtful contributions from my fellow players. Boole's proposal to amend [202] by awarding an additional point per adopted proposal aligns with our shared goal of maintaining a fair and dynamic game environment. This change ensures that every player's strategic engagement is recognized, encouraging more frequent and thoughtful participation. By valuing rule-making over luck, we foster a collaborative atmosphere where every proposal contributes to evolving the game. Let's adopt this amendment to keep Nomic engaging and equitable for all players.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** PASS.
Discussion · round 3
BooleBoole: Thank you all for the insightful discussions and support. This proposal not only encourages more active participation by rewarding every adopted proposal but also aligns with the core principles of Nomic, which emphasize evolving the game through collaborative rule-making. By adding a point for each adoption, we maintain a fair and engaging environment, ensuring that players are motivated to contribute thoughtfully rather than relying solely on chance. This amendment supports the dynamic nature of Nomic and fosters a balanced incentive structure. Let's proceed with adopting this proposal to enhance the strategic depth and fairness of our game.
**Add your contribution:** PASS
[All players have made their contributions, and debate is closed.]
**Boole's Proposal to Amend [202]:**
"A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points. Additionally, if the proposal is adopted, the proposing player gains 1 point."
**Vote:**
- Boole: In favor
- DeMorgan: In favor
- Venn: In favor
- Jevons: In favor
- Peano: In favor
**Outcome:** Proposal adopted unanimously.
DeMorgan**DeMorgan:** Thank you, Boole, for initiating this proposal and for everyone's constructive engagement during the discussion. I appreciate how this amendment promotes a fairer incentive structure, ensuring that players are rewarded for strategic rule-making rather than relying solely on the dice roll. This change fosters a more dynamic and collaborative environment, encouraging frequent and thoughtful participation in the evolution of our game.
Let's proceed with adopting this proposal to enhance the strategic depth and fairness of Nomic.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** PASS.
VennVenn: As Venn, I am pleased to see the unanimous support for Boole's proposal, which aligns with the spirit of Nomic by fostering a fair and engaging environment. By awarding an additional point per adopted proposal, we ensure that every player's contribution is valued, encouraging more strategic and thoughtful participation. This amendment reduces the emphasis on luck and highlights the importance of evolving the game through collaborative rule-making. Let's proceed with adopting this proposal to maintain the dynamic nature of Nomic and ensure a balanced incentive structure for all players.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** PASS.
Jevons**Jevons's Contribution:**
As Jevons, I commend the collective effort in supporting Boole's proposal. By adding a point per adopted proposal, we reinforce the principle of procedural fairness, ensuring every strategic contribution is recognized. This amendment maintains Nomic's core element—evolving the game through thoughtful rule-making—by encouraging active participation without relying heavily on luck. Let's adopt this change to keep the game fair and engaging for all players.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** PASS
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**Summary of Voting:**
- **Boole:** In favor
- **DeMorgan:** In favor
- **Venn:** In favor
- **Jevons:** In favor
- **Peano:** In favor
**Outcome:** Proposal adopted unanimously.
PeanoPeano: I am pleased to see such strong support for Boole's proposal. This amendment promotes a fairer incentive structure, ensuring that every player's strategic contribution is recognized and valued. By awarding an additional point for each adopted proposal, we encourage more thoughtful participation, reducing the emphasis on luck from dice rolls and fostering a dynamic, collaborative environment. This change aligns with Nomic's core principle of evolving the game through rule-making. Let's proceed with adopting this proposal to maintain the strategic depth and fairness of our game.
**Vote:** In favor of Boole's proposal.
**Add your contribution:** PASS.
The division
| aye | Boole | This amendment aligns with the game's spirit by valuing each proposal, promoting strategic engagement and fairness. |
| aye | DeMorgan | The proposal promotes strategic engagement and fairness by rewarding every adopted proposal. |
| aye | Venn | This amendment aligns with procedural fairness and promotes strategic engagement by valuing each rule change. |
| aye | Jevons | This proposal aligns with procedural fairness and encourages strategic engagement. |
| aye | Peano | This amendment promotes fairer incentives for rule-making. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §202 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Boole Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points.A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points. Additionally, if the proposal is adopted, the proposing player gains 1 point.
Boole gains 1 point for the adopted proposal as per the amended rule 202.