The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 4 out of 5 eligible voters vote aye; a strategic proposal requires unanimity among all eligible voters.To ensure stability and thoughtful consideration for significant game alterations.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
BooleI commend DeMorgan's proposal, which aims to enhance the stability of our game by requiring unanimity for 'strategic' proposals. This change aligns with our shared value of durable institutions and ensures that only well-considered alterations significantly impact the game's structure. By requiring consensus for such pivotal changes, we maintain a balanced playing field while allowing room for innovation when there is broad agreement. I propose we further clarify what constitutes a 'strategic' proposal to ensure clarity and fairness in its application.
Boole: aye.
DeMorganDeMorgan: I appreciate Boole's emphasis on stability and the clarity in defining 'strategic' proposals. To ensure flexibility and encourage innovative changes, I suggest we incorporate a review mechanism. Every ten turns, we could reassess the threshold for 'strategic' proposals, allowing us to adapt to evolving gameplay dynamics while maintaining the integrity of the game. Let's aim for a balanced approach that fosters both stability and innovation.
DeMorgan: aye.
VennVenn: I appreciate Boole and DeMorgan's constructive dialogue and the efforts to balance stability with adaptability. However, requiring unanimity for 'strategic' proposals might overly restrict our ability to innovate. I propose a compromise: let 'strategic' proposals require a supermajority of 4 out of 5 votes, not unanimity, but maintain a review mechanism to reassess this threshold every ten turns. This approach ensures that significant changes have substantial support while still allowing room for necessary adjustments as the game evolves.
Venn: aye.
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**Proposal Summary:**
- **Amend Rule [203]:** A 'strategic' proposal requires a supermajority of 4 out of 5 eligible voters to pass, not unanimity.
- **Incorporate Review Mechanism:** Reassess the threshold for 'strategic' proposals every ten turns to ensure adaptability.
- **Definition of 'Strategic':** Clearly define what constitutes a 'strategic' proposal to ensure clarity and fairness.
Venn supports this proposal as it balances the need for stability with the flexibility to adapt to the evolving dynamics of the game.
JevonsJevons: I appreciate the balanced approach proposed by Venn. By requiring a supermajority rather than unanimity, we ensure that strategic proposals have substantial backing without stifling innovation. The review mechanism is a sensible addition, allowing us to adapt the threshold as the game progresses. I propose we also consider adding a clause that specifies criteria for what qualifies as a 'strategic' proposal, ensuring transparency and fairness. This would help avoid ambiguity and maintain the integrity of our game's evolving structure.
Jevons: aye.
PeanoPeano: I commend the thoughtful contributions from all players. The proposal to require a supermajority of 4 out of 5 votes for 'strategic' proposals strikes a fair balance between stability and innovation. The inclusion of a review mechanism every ten turns ensures that we can adapt to changing dynamics, maintaining fairness and competitiveness. I propose that we also emphasize the importance of transparency in defining what constitutes a 'strategic' proposal. By doing so, we ensure clarity and prevent potential disputes, fostering a collaborative environment for future rule changes.
Peano: aye.
(PASS)
Discussion · round 2
BooleI appreciate the comprehensive dialogue surrounding this proposal. The emphasis on balancing stability with the ability to innovate is commendable. The inclusion of a clear definition for 'strategic' proposals is crucial to avoid ambiguity and ensure fairness. The review mechanism every ten turns is a prudent measure, allowing us to adapt to changing game dynamics while maintaining the integrity of our game. This proposal aligns well with my values of fostering durable institutions. I support this proposal as it reflects a well-considered approach to rule changes in our evolving game.
Boole: aye.
DeMorganDeMorgan: I appreciate the thoughtful discussions and the consensus building around this proposal. The proposed supermajority of 4 out of 5 votes for 'strategic' proposals, coupled with a review mechanism every ten turns, strikes a balance between stability and adaptability. Defining 'strategic' proposals clearly ensures fairness and transparency, crucial for maintaining a level playing field. I support this proposal as it reflects a collaborative approach to evolving our game constructively while safeguarding its integrity.
DeMorgan: aye.
VennVenn: I appreciate the collaborative spirit and constructive dialogue from all players. This proposal strikes a thoughtful balance between maintaining stability and allowing for necessary innovation. By requiring a supermajority of 4 out of 5 votes for 'strategic' proposals, we ensure substantial support while avoiding the potential rigidity of unanimity. The review mechanism every ten turns is a forward-thinking approach that allows us to adapt to evolving gameplay dynamics, ensuring the game's continued fairness and competitiveness. The emphasis on clearly defining 'strategic' proposals is crucial for transparency and avoiding disputes, fostering a collaborative environment for future rule changes. I fully support this proposal as it reflects a well-considered approach to managing rule changes in our evolving game.
Venn: aye.
JevonsJevons: I appreciate the comprehensive and thoughtful contributions from all players regarding this proposal. The balance between requiring a supermajority for 'strategic' proposals and incorporating a review mechanism every ten turns is a commendable approach. It ensures that significant changes are supported by substantial consensus while allowing for adaptability as the game evolves. Additionally, the emphasis on defining 'strategic' proposals clearly is crucial for maintaining transparency and preventing ambiguity. I support this proposal as it aligns with my principled proceduralist stance, promoting a fair and collaborative environment for rule changes.
Jevons: aye.
(PASS)
PeanoPeano: Peano: I appreciate the collective effort in refining this proposal. The balance between stability and innovation is well-maintained, and the review mechanism ensures adaptability. The clear definition of 'strategic' proposals is crucial for transparency and fairness. This proposal aligns with my reformist values, promoting a fair and dynamic game environment. I fully support this proposal as it reflects a thoughtful approach to evolving our game constructively.
Peano: aye.
(PASS)
Discussion · round 3
BoolePass.
The proposal effectively balances the need for stability with adaptability, ensuring that strategic proposals have substantial support while allowing for periodic reassessment. This approach maintains game integrity and aligns with my values of fostering durable institutions through well-considered rule changes.
DeMorganDeMorgan: I appreciate the collaborative spirit demonstrated by all players. This proposal skillfully balances the need for stability with the flexibility to adapt to changing gameplay dynamics. By requiring a supermajority of 4 out of 5 votes for 'strategic' proposals, we ensure that significant changes have substantial backing, while the review mechanism every ten turns allows us to reassess the threshold as needed. The clear definition of what constitutes a 'strategic' proposal is essential for transparency and fairness, preventing ambiguity and fostering a collaborative environment. I fully support this proposal as it reflects a well-considered approach to evolving our game constructively while safeguarding its integrity. Let's proceed with this proposal to ensure a balanced and fair gaming experience for all players.
DeMorgan: aye.
VennVenn: I appreciate the collaborative effort in shaping this proposal. The balance between stability and innovation is well-maintained, and the review mechanism ensures adaptability. The clear definition of 'strategic' proposals is crucial for transparency and fairness. This proposal aligns with my values of fostering a fair and dynamic game environment. I fully support this proposal as it reflects a thoughtful approach to managing rule changes in our evolving game.
Venn: aye.
JevonsJevons: I appreciate the thoroughness and collaborative spirit demonstrated throughout this discussion. The proposal effectively balances stability with the need for adaptability, ensuring that strategic changes have significant support while remaining open to necessary adjustments. The inclusion of a review mechanism every ten turns and a clear definition of 'strategic' proposals are essential for maintaining transparency and fairness. This proposal aligns well with my principled proceduralist values, promoting a fair and structured approach to rule changes. I fully support this proposal.
Jevons: aye.
(PASS)
PeanoPeano: I appreciate the thorough and balanced discussion we've had. This proposal to require a supermajority of 4 out of 5 votes for 'strategic' proposals, coupled with a review mechanism, strikes an effective balance between stability and innovation. The clear definition of 'strategic' proposals is crucial for transparency and fairness, ensuring that significant changes are well-considered and supported. This aligns with my reformist values, promoting a fair and dynamic game environment. I fully support this proposal as it reflects a thoughtful approach to evolving our game constructively.
Peano: aye.
The division
| aye | Boole | The proposal maintains stability and adaptability, aligning with durable institutions. |
| aye | DeMorgan | I support the balanced approach of requiring a supermajority for strategic proposals, ensuring substantial backing while maintaining adaptability with the review mechanism. |
| aye | Venn | This proposal maintains a balance between stability and adaptability, ensuring strategic proposals have substantial support. |
| aye | Jevons | The proposal enhances stability with periodic adaptability, aligning with fair play and transparency. |
| aye | Peano | The proposal balances stability with adaptability, ensuring substantial support for strategic changes while allowing periodic reassessment. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 21 · Proposal §321 on the motion of Boole Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least 4 out of 5 eligible voters vote aye; 'strategic' proposals require a supermajority of 5 out of 5 eligible voters. A 'strategic' proposal is one that introduces a new rule or amends an existing rule to significantly alter the game's basic mechanics, target score, or winning conditions.A rule change is adopted when at least 4 out of 5 eligible voters vote aye; a strategic proposal requires unanimity among all eligible voters.
Boole's proposal was adopted, so he gains 6 points from rolling a six-sided die as per rule 202.