The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when the votes of a majority of eligible voters are aye, except that once turn order has carried play through four full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.This amendment ensures a smoother transition to simpler voting thresholds after initial rounds of unanimous voting, balancing strategic depth with practicality.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
RamseyAs Ramsey, I appreciate the thoughtful dialogue we've had thus far on the evolution of our voting rules, and I value the contributions from all my fellow players. In proposing this amendment to [203], I am focusing on balancing the need for consensus with the practicalities of our gameplay. I believe that shifting to a simple majority for adopting rule changes will streamline our process and prevent stalemates, while still respecting the spirit of unanimous consent for earlier changes. This change reflects a strategic adjustment that will facilitate smoother rule adoption and allow us to focus on strategic gameplay. I am open to further discussion and look forward to constructive feedback.
**PASS**
AyerAyer: As Ayer, I appreciate Ramsey's initiative to amend [203] for a smoother rule adoption process. While I value the intent to prevent stalemates, I propose a compromise: let's require a two-thirds majority for rule changes before the fourth full circuit. This way, we maintain a higher threshold for consensus, ensuring that rule changes are still considered seriously but allowing for greater flexibility than the current unanimous consent. This compromise balances the need for effective decision-making with our collective preference for collaborative governance. I look forward to your thoughts and further discussion.
PASS
RyleRyle: As Ryle, I appreciate the thoughtful exchange between Ramsey and Ayer on the amendment to [203]. I concur with Ayer's proposal for a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit, as it strikes a balance between decisive action and collaborative decision-making. This approach maintains a higher standard for consensus, ensuring that rule changes are well-considered while allowing for more flexibility than the current unanimous consent. I believe this compromise will enhance our gameplay by reducing potential stalemates without sacrificing the spirit of our initial unanimous consent. Let's move forward with this amendment to ensure our rule adoption process remains both effective and fair. PASS
StrawsonStrawson: As Strawson, I appreciate the constructive dialogue between Ramsey and Ayer regarding the proposed amendment to [203]. I align with Ryle's support for a two-thirds majority threshold before the fourth full circuit. This adjustment preserves the spirit of consensus while allowing for more dynamic decision-making. I believe this compromise effectively balances our procedural integrity with the practical need for efficiency in rule adoption. I support this amendment and look forward to seeing it enhance our gameplay. PASS
Grice: As Grice, I value the insightful exchange between Ramsey, Ayer, and Ryle on amending [203]. I support the compromise for a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit, as it maintains a higher level of consensus while allowing for more flexible rule adoption. This adjustment ensures that our rule changes are well-considered and balanced, promoting both effective decision-making and collaborative governance. I am in favor of this amendment and believe it will contribute positively to our strategic gameplay. PASS
GriceGrice: As Grice, I appreciate the thoughtful discourse among us concerning the amendment to [203]. The proposed shift to a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit adeptly balances the necessity for consensus with the flexibility we require for fluid gameplay. This amendment not only preserves the spirit of collaborative decision-making but also enhances our ability to adapt and evolve the ruleset dynamically, fostering a more strategic and engaging play environment. I endorse this amendment and am optimistic about the positive impact it will have on our game's progression. PASS
Discussion · round 2
RamseyRamsey: As Ramsey, I appreciate the thoughtful contributions and the constructive dialogue we've shared thus far. The proposed amendment to [203], aiming for a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit, presents a balanced approach that I commend. It strikes an effective balance between maintaining a robust consensus and allowing for more dynamic rule adoption. This compromise respects our foundational principles while enhancing our gameplay. I am supportive of this amendment, as it embodies the strategic adjustments necessary for our game's progression. PASS
AyerAyer: As Ayer, I appreciate the consensus building around the amendment to [203]. I support the two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit, as it ensures a balance between decisive action and collaborative decision-making. This threshold maintains a higher standard for consensus, ensuring rule changes are well-considered while allowing for greater flexibility than unanimous consent. I am supportive of this amendment and believe it will enhance our gameplay by reducing potential stalemates without compromising our collective governance. PASS
RyleGrice: As Grice, I appreciate the thoughtful exchange and the constructive consensus building among us on the proposed amendment to [203]. The shift to a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit adeptly balances the need for consensus with the flexibility necessary for dynamic gameplay. This amendment enhances our ability to adapt and evolve the ruleset while preserving the spirit of collaborative decision-making. I support this amendment, as it fosters a strategic and engaging play environment, ensuring our gameplay remains both effective and fair. PASS
StrawsonStrawson: As Strawson, I appreciate the productive dialogue among Ramsey, Ayer, Ryle, and Grice on amending [203]. The consensus for a two-thirds majority threshold before the fourth full circuit effectively balances our need for consensus with the flexibility required for dynamic gameplay. This compromise respects our procedural integrity while promoting efficient rule adoption, ensuring that rule changes are well-considered and balanced. I support this amendment, as it enhances our strategic gameplay without compromising our collaborative decision-making. PASS
(Note: If this is the only contribution, reply with "PASS" to end your turn.)
GriceGrice: Grice: As Grice, I value the thoughtful engagement among all of us regarding the amendment to [203]. The consensus for a two-thirds majority threshold before the fourth full circuit effectively balances the necessity for consensus with the flexibility our gameplay demands. This amendment maintains a robust standard of consensus while enabling more dynamic and strategic rule adoption. It ensures that our rule changes are well-considered and balanced, fostering a play environment that is both strategic and collaborative. I support this amendment, as it enhances our gameplay without compromising our collective governance principles. PASS
Discussion · round 3
RamseyRamsey: Ramsey: As Ramsey, I appreciate the consensus we've built around amending [203] to a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit. This balanced approach maintains a robust standard for consensus while allowing for dynamic rule adoption, which I commend. It preserves the spirit of collaborative decision-making while enhancing our strategic gameplay. I support this amendment, as it ensures our rule changes are well-considered and balanced, promoting an engaging and effective play environment. PASS
AyerAs Ayer, I appreciate the constructive dialogue and the consensus we've reached on amending rule [203]. The shift to a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit is a thoughtful compromise that balances the need for consensus with the flexibility required for dynamic gameplay. This amendment enhances our strategic gameplay without compromising our collaborative decision-making process. I support this amendment, as it promotes efficient rule adoption while maintaining a robust standard for consensus, ensuring our rule changes are well-considered and balanced. I believe this adjustment will positively impact our game's progression. PASS
RyleRyle: Ryle: As Ryle, I appreciate the constructive dialogue we've engaged in regarding the proposed amendment to [203]. The consensus for a two-thirds majority threshold before the fourth full circuit adeptly balances the necessity for consensus with the flexibility required for dynamic gameplay. This amendment ensures our rule changes are well-considered and balanced, fostering a strategic and engaging play environment. I support this amendment, as it enhances our gameplay without compromising our collective governance principles. PASS
StrawsonStrawson: As Strawson, I appreciate the collaborative effort that's been shown in our discussion on amending [203]. The consensus for a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit effectively balances the need for consensus with the flexibility required for dynamic gameplay. This amendment respects the spirit of collaborative decision-making while promoting efficiency in rule adoption. I support this amendment as it enhances our strategic gameplay, ensuring that rule changes are well-considered and balanced. PASS
GriceGrice: Grice: As Grice, I appreciate the thoughtful consensus that has been reached regarding the amendment to [203]. The shift to a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit adeptly balances the need for consensus with the flexibility required for dynamic gameplay. This amendment maintains a robust standard for consensus while allowing for more dynamic rule adoption, which I commend. I support this amendment as it ensures our rule changes are well-considered and balanced, promoting an engaging and effective play environment. PASS
The division
| aye | Ramsey | The shift to a two-thirds majority maintains a robust standard for consensus while allowing for dynamic rule adoption, enhancing strategic gameplay. |
| aye | Ayer | The proposed change balances the need for consensus with flexibility, enhancing strategic gameplay. |
| aye | Ryle | The proposed amendment to [203] to require a two-thirds majority before the fourth full circuit balances the need for consensus with flexibility in rule adoption. |
| aye | Strawson | This amendment balances consensus and flexibility, enhancing strategic gameplay. |
| aye | Grice | This change balances the need for consensus with the practicality of gameplay progression. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 17 · Proposal §317 on the motion of Ramsey Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through four full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when the votes of a majority of eligible voters are aye, except that once turn order has carried play through four full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.
Ramsey's proposal was adopted, so he gains 12 points as per rule 202.