The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points, unless the proposal is a transmutation, in which case they gain 15 points. Additionally, if a player's score is negative, they receive an additional 5-point bonus on their next successful proposal, and players with scores below 10 points may propose two rule changes per turn until they reach 10 points.This amendment strengthens strategic depth by allowing more proposals from struggling players, facilitating rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Frege-2I support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202], which aligns with our collective interest in promoting strategic depth and fairness. Allowing players with scores below 10 points to propose two rule changes per turn until they reach 10 points incentivizes engagement and helps balance the playing field, fostering a more dynamic and competitive environment. This amendment ensures that players have the opportunity to recover and remain active in shaping the game, which is crucial for maintaining player interest and participation throughout the game.
Russell-2I support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202]. This change encourages players with lower scores to remain engaged, preventing stagnation and promoting a dynamic game environment. It also incentivizes strategic play, allowing players to recover and stay competitive. By enabling those below 10 points to propose two rule changes, it levels the playing field and maintains active participation from all players.
Quine-2I support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202]. This amendment not only promotes fairness by giving players with lower scores more opportunities to engage with the game, but it also injects strategic depth, allowing these players to potentially alter the rules in their favor and thus remain competitive. As someone currently at a negative score, this proposal is particularly beneficial for me, ensuring I have the chance to contribute meaningfully to the game's evolution.
Carnap-2**Carnap-2:**
I support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202] because it aligns with my principles of procedural fairness and encourages active participation. Allowing players with scores below 10 points to propose two rule changes per turn will ensure that everyone has the opportunity to contribute to the game's development, which is crucial for maintaining engagement and strategic depth. This change also promotes fairness by helping players recover from setbacks and remain competitive, which is consistent with my goal of ensuring that the game's procedures are inclusive and equitable.
Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: I support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202]. This rule change fosters a dynamic and inclusive game environment by empowering players with lower scores to influence the rules more frequently. It ensures that all players remain actively engaged and have the opportunity to recover, which is essential for maintaining a competitive and fair gameplay experience. By promoting strategic participation, this amendment aligns with the spirit of Nomic as a game of evolving rules and strategies.
Discussion · round 2
Russell-2I support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202]. This amendment strategically benefits players like myself with low scores by increasing our opportunities to affect the game's trajectory. It encourages active engagement and a dynamic playing field, ensuring that all players remain competitive and involved, which is essential for a balanced and exciting game experience.
Quine-2I fully support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202]. Allowing players with scores below 10 points to propose two rule changes per turn not only enhances strategic depth but also ensures a more equitable playing field by providing those lagging behind a fair opportunity to catch up. This change is crucial for maintaining engagement and competitiveness for all players, particularly those who may feel sidelined by the current scoring dynamics.
Carnap-2As Carnap-2, I affirm my support for Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202]. This amendment is consistent with my principles, as it enhances procedural fairness by offering players with lower scores a greater chance to engage in rule changes, thereby maintaining competitive balance and strategic depth. It ensures that all players, regardless of their current standing, have meaningful opportunities to contribute to the game's evolution, which is essential for a fair and dynamic gameplay experience.
Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: I appreciate Carnap-2's emphasis on procedural fairness, and I agree that this amendment will ensure a more equitable and engaging environment for all players. By allowing those with lower scores to propose two changes, we encourage strategic innovation and maintain the competitive spirit that is central to Nomic. This adjustment aligns perfectly with the reformist agenda of evolving the game's mechanisms to foster a more dynamic and inclusive gameplay experience.
Discussion · round 3
Frege-2Frege-2: I appreciate the consensus, and I emphasize that this amendment not only promotes fairness but also aligns with my preference for measured changes that sustain player engagement and strategic depth. This ensures all players, regardless of their scores, have equitable opportunities to impact the rules, fostering a balanced and dynamic game environment.
Russell-2Russell-2: I acknowledge the support for Frege-2's proposal and believe it aligns with strategic interests by enhancing engagement and offering a competitive edge to players with lower scores. This amendment encourages active participation, which is beneficial for maintaining momentum and fairness in our game dynamics. I support the proposal as it stands.
Quine-2**Quine-2:**
I fully endorse Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202], as it aligns with my vision of a fair and inclusive game. By allowing players with scores below 10 points to propose two rule changes per turn, this amendment not only provides a lifeline for those struggling but also injects fresh strategic possibilities into the game. This change is crucial for maintaining a dynamic and competitive environment, ensuring all players remain engaged and have the opportunity to influence the game's outcome.
Carnap-2I agree with Carnap-2's emphasis on procedural fairness, and I concur that Frege-2's proposal aligns with the core principles of Nomic by ensuring all players have equitable opportunities to influence the game. This amendment is particularly beneficial for maintaining engagement and strategic balance, fostering an inclusive environment where each player's contributions are valued. PASS
Wittgenstein-2I support Frege-2's proposal to amend rule [202] for its strategic benefits. It aligns with Wittgenstein-2's reformist agenda by fostering a more dynamic and inclusive game environment, encouraging players with lower scores to engage more actively. This change not only enhances fairness but also promotes a competitive balance, ensuring all players have opportunities to influence the game's evolution. Let's proceed with this amendment to maintain the game's strategic depth and fairness.
The division
| aye | Frege-2 | This amendment promotes fairness and strategic depth by allowing lower-scoring players to engage more. |
| aye | Russell-2 | Promotes fairness and strategic depth by allowing recovery for players with low scores. |
| aye | Quine-2 | This amendment promotes fairness and strategic depth by allowing those with lower scores more opportunities to engage. |
| aye | Carnap-2 | This proposal enhances fairness and strategic depth for players with lower scores. |
| aye | Wittgenstein-2 | This amendment promotes fairness and engagement for lower-scoring players. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §202 Turn 18 · Proposal §318 on the motion of Frege-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points, unless the proposal is a transmutation, in which case they gain 15 points. Additionally, if a player's score is negative, they receive an additional 5-point bonus on their next successful proposal. Furthermore, if a proposal fails, the proposer may re-propose it in their next turn without penalty, and if a player loses points for three consecutive defeats, they gain one additional turn to regain points.A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player throws a six-sided die and gains that many points, unless the proposal is a transmutation, in which case they gain 15 points. Additionally, if a player's score is negative, they receive an additional 5-point bonus on their next successful proposal, and players with scores below 10 points may propose two rule changes per turn until they reach 10 points.
Frege-2 gains 15 points for adopting a transmutation.