Turn 17 — Nomic

The motion

To amend §202

This amendment incentivizes successful passage of rule changes with a reasonable bonus, encouraging strategic collaboration.

The floor

Discussion · round 1

FregeI appreciate the thoughtful consideration Russell has shown in proposing this amendment. However, reducing the additional points from 10 to 7 for a three-fifths majority might lessen the incentive for players to strive for higher consensus, which I believe is crucial for maintaining strategic depth and ensuring robust rule changes. To strike a balance, I suggest we retain the 10-point bonus for a three-fifths majority, as it encourages players to engage more deeply in the process, fostering a more collaborative and thoughtful environment. I propose this amendment be reconsidered: "A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player may choose to gain points equal to the number of aye votes plus an additional 10 points if they successfully pass a rule change with a three-fifths majority."

RussellI appreciate Frege's emphasis on maintaining incentives for achieving higher consensus, which aligns with my goal of encouraging strategic depth and collaboration. However, I believe that setting the additional points at 7 still provides a significant enough incentive while allowing for more frequent opportunities to gain points, which can keep the game dynamic and engaging for all players. Perhaps we could consider a compromise that balances both perspectives: offering an additional 8 points for a three-fifths majority. This adjustment might encourage consensus without diminishing the incentive too much. I propose the following amendment: "A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player may choose to gain points equal to the number of aye votes plus an additional 8 points if they successfully pass a rule change with a three-fifths majority." This way, we can foster both strategic depth and engagement.

QuinePASS. The proposal to adjust the bonus points to 8 for a three-fifths majority seems like a reasonable compromise that balances incentives for achieving consensus while keeping the game dynamic. This adjustment encourages strategic collaboration without diminishing the value of reaching higher consensus, which aligns well with the goal of maintaining a fair and engaging game for all players.

CarnapPASS Given the thorough discussion and consensus around the proposal for an 8-point bonus for a three-fifths majority, I support it as a balanced approach. It incentivizes collaboration and consensus-building while keeping the game dynamic.

WittgensteinPass. The proposal to set the bonus at 8 points for a three-fifths majority effectively balances incentives for both collaboration and strategic depth, aligning with our collective goal to maintain a fair and engaging game environment. I support this amendment and look forward to its adoption.

Discussion · round 2

FregePASS. I concur with the consensus reached on adjusting the bonus to 8 points for a three-fifths majority, as it thoughtfully balances the need for strategic depth with the desire for a dynamic and engaging game. This amendment aligns well with our collective goal of maintaining a fair and collaborative environment.

RussellPASS. I appreciate the balanced discussion and agree with the consensus on awarding 8 points for a three-fifths majority. This proposal thoughtfully incentivizes strategic collaboration while keeping the game engaging for all players.

QuinePASS. The proposal to award 8 additional points for a three-fifths majority has been thoroughly discussed and appears to strike an effective balance between incentivizing consensus and maintaining strategic engagement. I support this amendment as it aligns with our goal of fostering a fair and dynamic game environment.

CarnapPASS The proposal to amend [202] by awarding an additional 8 points for a three-fifths majority has been thoroughly discussed and reached a consensus. The proposed amendment strikes a balance between incentivizing strategic collaboration and maintaining a dynamic game environment, and I support its adoption.

WittgensteinPASS. The consensus to award 8 additional points for a three-fifths majority in [202] effectively balances strategic depth and engagement. It aligns with our collective goal of fostering a fair and dynamic game environment, and I support its adoption.

Discussion · round 3

FregePASS The proposal to adjust the bonus to 8 points for a three-fifths majority in [202] has been thoughtfully discussed and reached a consensus. It effectively balances the need for strategic depth and dynamic engagement, aligning with our collective goal of maintaining a fair and collaborative game environment.

RussellPASS. I'm pleased to see that we've reached a consensus on the proposal to award an additional 8 points for a three-fifths majority. This balanced approach effectively incentivizes strategic collaboration while maintaining the dynamic nature of the game. I support its adoption and look forward to its positive impact on our gameplay.

QuinePASS. The proposal to award 8 additional points for a three-fifths majority in [202] has been thoroughly discussed and has reached a consensus among us, effectively balancing strategic depth with engagement. I support its adoption.

CarnapPASS. The proposal to amend [202] by awarding an additional 8 points for a three-fifths majority has been thoroughly debated and reached a consensus, which aligns well with maintaining strategic depth and engagement. I support its adoption.

WittgensteinPASS. The proposal for an 8-point bonus for a three-fifths majority in [202] effectively balances strategic incentives and engagement, aligning with our shared goal of maintaining a fair and dynamic game environment. I support its adoption.

The division

aye	Frege	The proposal has reached consensus, balancing strategic incentives with engagement.
aye	Russell	The proposal balances strategic depth and engagement.
aye	Quine	The proposal maintains a balance between incentives for consensus and dynamic gameplay.
nay	Carnap	The proposal reduces the bonus for consensus from 8 to 7 points.
aye	Wittgenstein	Consensus reached on 8 points balances incentives effectively.

carried 4 aye · 1 nay

As engrossed

Amended · §202 Turn 17 · Proposal §317 on the motion of Russell Carried 4 aye · 1 nay

A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player may choose to gain points equal to the number of aye votes plus an additional 10 points if they successfully pass a rule change with a three-fifths majority.A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. If the proposal is adopted, the proposing player may choose to gain points equal to the number of aye votes plus an additional 7 points if they successfully pass a rule change with a three-fifths majority.

Russell gains 12 points for passing the proposal with a three-fifths majority (4 ayes out of 5).