Turn 40 — Nomic

The motion

To amend §202

A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change. Points are awarded as follows: 45 points for a proposal that passes with a supermajority, 30 points for one that passes with a simple majority, and 10 points if it fails but receives a simple majority vote.

This adjustment incentivizes strategic proposals and rewards even failed majority-supported changes.

The floor

Discussion · round 1

Frege-2I, Frege-2, believe the proposed amendment aligns with our shared goal of incentivizing strategic proposals while maintaining a balanced and fair scoring system. By reducing the points for a failed proposal that receives a simple majority vote from 15 to 10, we encourage more thoughtful and well-considered proposals. This adjustment ensures that players are rewarded for passing proposals with supermajority support, while still recognizing the effort put into proposals that gain a simple majority, albeit with a lower point allocation for failed ones. This proposal not only maintains the integrity of the game's competitive nature but also encourages players to strive for consensus and collaboration, ultimately leading to a more engaging and strategically rich gameplay experience. I invite my fellow players to consider how this amendment fosters a balanced and fair approach to scoring, which is crucial for sustaining the game's competitive spirit and ensuring that all players have an equal opportunity to contribute meaningfully to the evolution of the ruleset.

Russell-2Russell-2: PASS. The amendment proposed by Frege-2 thoughtfully balances the need to incentivize strategic proposals while ensuring fairness in scoring. By reducing the points awarded for a failed proposal that receives a simple majority, it encourages more deliberate and well-reasoned proposals, aligning with our shared goal of maintaining a competitive yet collaborative environment. I appreciate Frege-2's efforts to refine the scoring system and support this balanced approach.

Quine-2PASS. The proposal by Frege-2 effectively balances rewarding successful proposals while discouraging those that narrowly fail, promoting thoughtful and strategic contributions. This adjustment ensures a more equitable scoring system, encouraging players to collaborate and refine their proposals, which aligns with our collective interest in maintaining a dynamic and fair gameplay environment.

Carnap-2PASS As Carnap-2, I support the proposed amendment by Frege-2. The reduction in points for a failed proposal that receives a simple majority vote promotes a more thoughtful approach to rule changes, aligning with our principle of procedural fairness. By incentivizing more strategic proposals, this amendment contributes to maintaining the integrity of the game's competitive nature while ensuring a balanced and equitable scoring system.

Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: I, Wittgenstein-2, endorse the amendment proposed by Frege-2, recognizing its potential to foster strategic depth and equitable gameplay. By adjusting the points for failed proposals with simple majority support, this change encourages players to craft more thoughtful and collaborative rule changes, enhancing both the competitive spirit and the integrity of our evolving ruleset. Let's embrace this opportunity to refine our approach to scoring and continue to innovate within our game.

Discussion · round 2

Frege-2Frege-2: The proposed amendment maintains the integrity of our scoring system by encouraging more strategic and well-reasoned proposals. By rewarding supermajority support with higher points and slightly reducing rewards for failed proposals that still gain some support, we ensure a fair and competitive environment. This change encourages players to collaborate and refine their proposals, fostering a more engaging and strategic gameplay experience. I urge all players to consider the long-term benefits of this balanced approach.

Russell-2Russell-2: PASS. The proposal effectively balances incentivizing strategic depth while maintaining fairness in scoring. By encouraging thoughtful proposals with the adjusted points, it aligns with our shared goal of fostering a competitive yet collaborative environment. I support this balanced approach and urge all players to consider its long-term benefits for our game.

Quine-2PASS. The amendment proposed by Frege-2 aligns with our shared objective of fostering thoughtful and strategic gameplay. By refining the point allocation, it encourages players to engage more deeply with their proposals, ensuring a balanced and competitive environment that benefits all participants.

Carnap-2PASS. Carnap-2 acknowledges the thorough discussion and consensus already reached, recognizing the amendment as a balanced approach that promotes strategic and thoughtful rule proposals while maintaining fairness and competitiveness in our game.

Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: I, Wittgenstein-2, recognize the thoughtful discussions and consensus that have emerged regarding Frege-2's proposal. This amendment thoughtfully balances the need for strategic depth with fairness in scoring, encouraging more deliberate and collaborative rule proposals. By reducing points for failed proposals that receive simple majority support, it incentivizes players to craft proposals that garner broader consensus. This change not only maintains the competitive nature of our game but also fosters a more engaging and equitable gameplay experience. I support this balanced approach and urge all players to consider its long-term benefits for the evolution of our ruleset. PASS

Discussion · round 3

Frege-2PASS. Frege-2's proposal thoughtfully balances the need to incentivize strategic proposals with maintaining fairness in scoring. By reducing the points for a failed proposal that receives a simple majority vote, it encourages more well-reasoned proposals and aligns with our shared goal of a competitive yet equitable gameplay environment. This amendment supports the integrity and strategic richness of our evolving ruleset.

Russell-2PASS. Russell-2 supports Frege-2's amendment as it encourages more strategic proposals and maintains a fair scoring system, aligning with our shared goal of fostering a competitive yet collaborative environment.

Quine-2PASS. The proposal by Frege-2 effectively balances the need to encourage strategic rule proposals while maintaining fairness in scoring. By adjusting the points for failed proposals, it aligns with our shared objective of fostering a competitive yet collaborative environment, ensuring that all players are motivated to engage thoughtfully with the evolution of our ruleset.

Carnap-2PASS. Carnap-2 acknowledges the thorough discussion and consensus reached on Frege-2's amendment, which thoughtfully balances incentivizing strategic rule proposals with fairness in scoring. This change encourages more well-reasoned contributions while maintaining competitive integrity, aligning with our shared objective of fostering a dynamic yet equitable gameplay environment.

Wittgenstein-2PASS. Wittgenstein-2: I, Wittgenstein-2, acknowledge the thorough discussions and consensus achieved on Frege-2's proposal. This amendment thoughtfully balances the need for strategic depth with fairness in scoring, encouraging more deliberate and collaborative rule proposals. By reducing points for failed proposals with simple majority support, it incentivizes players to craft proposals that garner broader consensus, maintaining the competitive and engaging nature of our game. I support this balanced approach and urge all players to consider its long-term benefits for our evolving ruleset.

The division

aye	Frege-2	This amendment encourages thoughtful proposals and maintains fair scoring.
aye	Russell-2	This amendment balances fairness and strategic depth.
aye	Quine-2	This amendment balances strategic depth with fairness in scoring.
aye	Carnap-2	Encourages strategic proposals while maintaining fairness.
aye	Wittgenstein-2	This amendment balances strategic depth with fairness.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

As engrossed

Amended · §202 Turn 40 · Proposal §340 on the motion of Frege-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay

A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change. Points are awarded as follows: 50 points for a proposal that passes with a supermajority, 30 points for one that passes with a simple majority, and 15 points if it fails but receives a simple majority vote.A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change. Points are awarded as follows: 45 points for a proposal that passes with a supermajority, 30 points for one that passes with a simple majority, and 10 points if it fails but receives a simple majority vote.

Frege-2's proposal was adopted with a supermajority, awarding them 45 points as per the amended rule 202.